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Old Man Rant: Something I hope never happens to drums.

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I have never liked those guitars that have been purposely made to look worn..."reliced" they call them, which even spell check does not recognize as a real word. I've even seen tools on CL that will post it as a luthier service. Pay me to make your nice guitar a look trashed, but in a cool way? I'd like to rename it...dis-honest wear.

Anyway, I'm a total hypocrite as I look down at the dis-honest wear on my blue jeans and pre-faded tee shirt, but man, I hope drum companies don't go down that road.

I could just see it...a factory yellowed WMP wrap with cigarette burns and pre-drilled extra holes, scuffed up bass hoops, new heads that look dirty and stick marked...noooooooooooooooooooo

Stop stringing and tuning your instrument, make music now.
-fortune cookie

Vintage Drums:
1970ish Ludwig Standard Avocado Strata downbeat
1970ish Star Acrylic 22,12,13,16
1950’s Gretsch tympani 26.5
19?? Sonor roto-tympani 13x12
70’s Ludwig Standard alum 14x5 snare
90’s Arbiter Adv. Tuning 12x5 snare
90’s Ludwig blackrolite 14x5 snare

Modern Drums:
Erie Drums 1-ply sycamore shell kit 18,10,13
Erie 1-ply maple 14x5 snare
Tama S.L.P. Acrylic 14x6.5 snare
Posted on 6 years ago
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They already do.

Look at the Ludwig Copperphonics and the Pearl Patina breass.

Posted on 6 years ago
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From pgm554

They already do.Look at the Ludwig Copperphonics and the Pearl Patina breass.

Faux patina on metals like copper is not quite as cheesy to me, even a silver sparkle wrap that was made to look like vintage "ginger ale" silver sparkle wrap would not strike me as cheesy, that's like my faded GAP tee shirt.

Hmmm. I guess what really rubs me wrong are guitars that are trying a little too hard to look like a guitar that was played on the road for 30 years. But then again, if someone is doing it as an artistic statement, I like art...hmmm I guess I don't really have a beef...

nevermind.

Stop stringing and tuning your instrument, make music now.
-fortune cookie

Vintage Drums:
1970ish Ludwig Standard Avocado Strata downbeat
1970ish Star Acrylic 22,12,13,16
1950’s Gretsch tympani 26.5
19?? Sonor roto-tympani 13x12
70’s Ludwig Standard alum 14x5 snare
90’s Arbiter Adv. Tuning 12x5 snare
90’s Ludwig blackrolite 14x5 snare

Modern Drums:
Erie Drums 1-ply sycamore shell kit 18,10,13
Erie 1-ply maple 14x5 snare
Tama S.L.P. Acrylic 14x6.5 snare
Posted on 6 years ago
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Never heard the term 'reliced' before. In the furniture world, the term 'distressed' is typically used.

"If 'A' equals 'success' in life then 'A' equals 'X' plus 'Y' plus 'Z' where work equals 'X', 'Y' is play and 'Z' is keeping your mouth shut" - Albert Einstein.


1920s 14"x5" Ludwig Super Sensitive Dual Snare
1957 6 1/2" x15" Slingerland WMP Concert King
1938 8"x15" Leedy Broadway Standard
1947-53 14x6.5" NOB Ludwig & Ludwig Universal
...plus a bunch of mismatched Slingerlands that collectively make a pleasing noise.
Posted on 6 years ago
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I'm also a guitarist, so let me try to explain why a relic'd guitar can be a good thing.

Very often, guitars, particularly ones with polyester finishes, feel stiff and cold when you strap them on, almost too perfect. They don't feel player friendly. A tastefully relic'd or aged guitar often feels broken in, comfortable, like it's seen hundreds of gigs already. It's been well played and is user friendly the minute you put it on, and that's why players like myself like them. They just feel better than a shiny, plastic covered guitar. You hold a guitar against your body, so it's got to feel good. You don't do that with drums.

What I have a problem with are amateurs who take a belt sander to a perfectly good guitar and ruin the finish. When relicing is done by someone who doesn't know what he's doing, the results are usually terrible and laughable at the same time. You see them on Ebay and Reverb all the time, and you can always tell the good relic jobs from the bad ones.

I hope I've explained why some guitarists like relicing. Another thing: some people say you should only relic a guitar naturally over a period of time, say 20 or 30 years. Well, some of us don't have 20 or 30 years to do that!

Finally, John Mellencamp's drummer, Dane Clark, uses a relic'd drumset with rusty hardware. Check them out online sometime. I'd say 98%% of the drummers out there want their drums to look bright, clean and shiny, so I doubt the relic thing will ever happen to any extent on drums.

Posted on 6 years ago
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I'm laughing now. I earned a hell of a lot of money selling the Relic, Closet Classic, and New Old Stock guitars and basses that my employer introduced at a NAMM show in the mid 1990s. Not every one of my dealers was authorized to sell Custom Shop instruments. Most of the dealers who stocked and sold Custom Shop instruments loved the guitars that looked as though they were old instruments that have been lovingly played and maintained. The dealers who voiced dislike for them or asked why we would offer these instruments were always told that it's OK. Those guitars are not a fit for your store. Let's move on to the other items that are good for your store. Those are guitars. Certain amplifiers have similar mojo for the well-worn look. As a drummer, I don't like the beat up look. I want my old drums to shine. The Levon Helm or Kentucky Headhunters drum set look is unappealing to me. Many guitar and bass players love the distressed look, and relatively few drummers like that look for their drums.

No matter how far you push the envelope, it is still stationery.
Posted on 6 years ago
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I like my drums OLD & beautiful.

What the hands of time does to them I cannot control.

But I still want them shiny, just OLD!

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Posted on 6 years ago
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Thanks everyone for chiming in.

I agree with DrumBob, the idea of a reliced instrument is not inherently bad, but it can certainly be poorly executed. And, in the end, if the sound produced by the instrument is not compromised, then who cares?

As my 89 year old father-in-law always says...De gustibus non est disputandum which loosely translated means..."There is no accounting for taste."

Stop stringing and tuning your instrument, make music now.
-fortune cookie

Vintage Drums:
1970ish Ludwig Standard Avocado Strata downbeat
1970ish Star Acrylic 22,12,13,16
1950’s Gretsch tympani 26.5
19?? Sonor roto-tympani 13x12
70’s Ludwig Standard alum 14x5 snare
90’s Arbiter Adv. Tuning 12x5 snare
90’s Ludwig blackrolite 14x5 snare

Modern Drums:
Erie Drums 1-ply sycamore shell kit 18,10,13
Erie 1-ply maple 14x5 snare
Tama S.L.P. Acrylic 14x6.5 snare
Posted on 6 years ago
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I hope and pray "they" never do the relic thing with new drums, and I prefer my vintage drums to be as nice as possible.

Having said that, I have a few dinged up old kit I like to gig on because I don't have to worry about dinging them up. They already are......

Posted on 6 years ago
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From Mr.Toast

I could just see it...a factory yellowed WMP wrap

They already do that......its called "Antique Marine Pearl" or "Antique White Pearl" depending on the manufacturer......personally I never cared for that aged white pearl......real or otherwise. WMP (true WMP that is, not the stuff they are passing off as WMP these days) looks fantastic when it is pristine and original as opposed to aged & yellowed.

Posted on 6 years ago
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