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Rack tom choke issue

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From DrumBob

Thanks for informing me about Booty Shakers. I just ordered a set of the little ones for the snare stand on which I mount my rack toms. Jump For Joy

You should notice a pretty big difference in the amount of resonance. For me, it was night and day.

-Justin

"People might look at you a bit funny, but it's okay. Artists are allowed to be a bit different."- Bob Ross

"After silence, that which comes closest to expressing the inexpressible is music..." - Aldous Huxley
Posted on 6 years ago
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From Brewkowski

You should notice a pretty big difference in the amount of resonance. For me, it was night and day.

Man, you are right. I played a gig last night with those Little Booty Shakers on the rack tom stand, and what a difference. That 13" Ludwig tom sang. What a great invention.

Posted on 6 years ago
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From DrumBob

Man, you are right. I played a gig last night with those Little Booty Shakers on the rack tom stand, and what a difference. That 13" Ludwig tom sang. What a great invention.

Yea!! So glad I bought a set of them. I need to buy a secondary set as a backup, but these have lasted quite a while. I've probably had them for close to two years now.

Try them on your actual snare stand as well. It opens the snare up, if you like an open sound. I still muffle the snare just a little to take some of the ring out of it, but with those the snare just sounds better (even muffled all of the way).

-Justin

"People might look at you a bit funny, but it's okay. Artists are allowed to be a bit different."- Bob Ross

"After silence, that which comes closest to expressing the inexpressible is music..." - Aldous Huxley
Posted on 6 years ago
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I've had a good experience with mounting choked toms on a cymbal stand. Doesn't have that vintage look, but the resonance is good.

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Posted on 6 years ago
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The rack toms on my Slingerland kit are mounted on that notoriously awful contraption, the Set-O-Matic, and there were two "gadgets" that helped me totally overcome its shortcomings.

First was 2-Ning (in my case preceded by LerNing2-2n).

I would try this before assuming that a gadget could help. We kinda lost the OP there, though.

My toms were also ultimately improved by putting nice vintage profile bearing edges on drums that had been bumpy when they left the factory.

-Erik
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Early '70's Slingerland New Rock #50 in blue agate (20-16-13-12)
Late '50's WFL Swingster/Barrett Deems in black/gold Duco
'70's Slingerland Gene Krupa Sound King COB
early '70's Ludwig Acrolite
'80's Ludwig Rocker II 6 1/2" snare
Rogers Supreme Big "R" hi hat

Posted on 6 years ago
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From johnnyringo

Whenever I see threads like this about making a vintage drum more resonant, I always have to ask ....why? First off, I love vintage drums because they don't sound like modern drums, I love that they decay fast, too much resonance can get in the way. I've never had an issue with getting just enough resonance out of them.

Different strokes for different folks.

For me, it's not about having them sound "modern." It's about getting a nice, full tonal sound, that still sounds vintage.

-Justin

"People might look at you a bit funny, but it's okay. Artists are allowed to be a bit different."- Bob Ross

"After silence, that which comes closest to expressing the inexpressible is music..." - Aldous Huxley
Posted on 6 years ago
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Maybe I've just been luckier with my kits, I can't tell the difference when I hold the drum by the rim vs. mounting on a tom arm or snare stand. I would check the tuning or head selection before buying any gadgets to enhance the sound.

Posted on 6 years ago
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Something else to consider:

In the past I have used a "old school" snare basket, like the one pictured. Some "generic" snare stands have that type of basket as well. This supports the tom, but the tom just "sits" in the basket; it isn't tight around the edges so it doesn't choke the sound. The straight, non-folding arm is adjustable to accommodate different size snares/toms. You can also gain more resonance by putting a small piece of foam where the bottom hoop contacts each of the three arms of the stand.

Also, the old Ludwig "folding basket" stands (again, like the picture) have 5/8" tubing, which is compatible to many flat base stands, both vintage and modern, so you can use one with a flat base and get it closer to your bass drum as well.

Hope this helps,

V

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Posted on 6 years ago
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From Brewkowski

Yea!! So glad I bought a set of them. I need to buy a secondary set as a backup, but these have lasted quite a while. I've probably had them for close to two years now. Try them on your actual snare stand as well. It opens the snare up, if you like an open sound. I still muffle the snare just a little to take some of the ring out of it, but with those the snare just sounds better (even muffled all of the way).

I'll have to try that. I get a lot of ring now out of my current favorite snare though. Can't hurt to try.

Posted on 6 years ago
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