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Black / Gold Duco Finish

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I have a friend who has been asking me to restore a Slingerland bass drum for him. The kit was Black / Gold Duco finish. Now I know the obvious to do the black and then gold on top, but was wondering if anyone has any tips, tricks, or insight to really nail it. I'm going to take some scrap wood and give it a few tries to get the technique, but figured someone here has traveled down this road before. Also what paint would be the best? It's going to be used in my HVLP gun, and I think oil based would be better than water based. But any and all insight is greatly appreciated.

18 Kits & 40+ snares..
Not a Guru, just addicted to drums

- Jay
Posted on 6 years ago
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When I did a duco finish, I sprayed the center paint (silver in my case) first, then sprayed the black over it. Was pretty easy on a bike wheel turntable; just give it a spin & spray. The spinning really helps with runs, & causes it to set up quicker, it seemed.

I tried spraying lacquer thru my hvlp spray rig & a bunch of other stuff; got my best finish with rattle cans of regular paint, with a clear topcoat........marko

Posted on 6 years ago
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A Lazy-Susan set-up is a must to get good results. I used an old turntable with a board on top to hold the shell. 16 RPM spins the shell at just the right speed. You'll get a better fade where the colors meet if the shell is spinning when you apply the paint. I'm with Marko, I got excellent results with Krylon rattle-can paints.

John

Too many great drums to list here!

http://www.walbergandauge.com/VintageVenue.htm
Posted on 6 years ago
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This was also a question I had for a "future project" for me. I love the turn table idea John. I thought about turning a lazy Susan with a small motor but seemed like too much effort to build it, hence the back burner for an attempt. I have a few old wood MIJ shells I will experiment on. Thanks to Jay for bringing this up.

Michael

No Guru - I just love collecting & learning about vintage drums!

Some of my favorites from the kits in the collection
58 WFL New Yorker Blue Sparkle
67 Ludwig Hollywood Red Psychedelic
69 Ludwig Standard Red Ruby Strata
70's Ludwig BOP "Ringo" Kit

A few of my favorite snares
20's Leedy Black Elite
51 Leedy & Ludwig Knob Tension
58 WFL Buddy Rich Classic Blue Sparkle
63 Walberg & Auge Sea Blue Agave Green Pearl
66 Leedy Shelly Manne Blue Agate Pearl
Posted on 6 years ago
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I think I'd paint the whole thing white first, then gold/silver, then the black.

Turntable is a nice idea but I've had some not-incredibly-terrible results running around the shell hollering "this is the way to do it!!"

That's a lie of course, but I'd still hit the shell with white first...

Mitch

Posted on 6 years ago
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I got a friend of mine to paint a WFL shell kit for me. He is an expert at matching and spraying. He primed/ sanded 3 times before applying the black. 3 coats of that with wet sanding in between. then he mixed the gold and applied it in thin coats. Acrylic paint, lazy susan gets you the best results and no rushing between coats.

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Posted on 6 years ago
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drumfx,

I'd ask for my money back from your painter friend, those are absolutely hideous.;)

Stop stringing and tuning your instrument, make music now.
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Vintage Drums:
1970ish Ludwig Standard Avocado Strata downbeat
1970ish Star Acrylic 22,12,13,16
1950’s Gretsch tympani 26.5
19?? Sonor roto-tympani 13x12
70’s Ludwig Standard alum 14x5 snare
90’s Arbiter Adv. Tuning 12x5 snare
90’s Ludwig blackrolite 14x5 snare

Modern Drums:
Erie Drums 1-ply sycamore shell kit 18,10,13
Erie 1-ply maple 14x5 snare
Tama S.L.P. Acrylic 14x6.5 snare
Posted on 6 years ago
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From Mr.Toast

drumfx, I'd ask for my money back from your painter friend, those are absolutely hideous.;)

Hihi and they sound even worst than they look :D...

Keep fixing them up...
Posted on 6 years ago
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From CTMichaelV

This was also a question I had for a "future project" for me. I love the turn table idea John. I thought about turning a lazy Susan with a small motor but seemed like too much effort to build it, hence the back burner for an attempt. I have a few old wood MIJ shells I will experiment on. Thanks to Jay for bringing this up. Michael

Mike, You can pick up a cheap turntable at Goodwill for $5. I drilled a center hole in a piece of ply wood so it would sit on the turntable and hold the shell. With the spin motion the drum literally paints itself. You'll need a steady hand but you'll get pro results.

John

Too many great drums to list here!

http://www.walbergandauge.com/VintageVenue.htm
Posted on 6 years ago
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I have a snare shell I tried to do some years back and it never panned out. I think I'll use that as my tester since It's mine. Only last real question is this - Do I place some tape to avoid gold going to far up or down on the shell? Or visa Versa for the black if Gold is done first?

18 Kits & 40+ snares..
Not a Guru, just addicted to drums

- Jay
Posted on 6 years ago
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