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No, this is not a thread regarding a trans stamp Zildjian.. ;)

I've been a Paiste guy for over 20 years, but i'm not new to Zildjian.

I think every drummer who plays Paiste has played Zildjian at some point

in their life. I'm seriously considering a "temporary transition" into

Zildjian territory for my McCartney tribute band. I'm also aware that

Abe Laboriel Jr. who's McCartney's current drummer, endorses

and uses a variety of Paiste cymbals, and although they sound

great playing Paul's solo and Beatles songs, i feel to capture that

true sound of the songs, i'm going to have to cheat on my Paistes

and use Zildjian.. I've played both A's and K's and really like the sound

of both. The best part is i've already found several used cymbals for

pretty cheap, so at least if i buy them it won't cost an arm and a leg. New Beat 14" hats

for $130 CDN, a vintage hollow logo 20" crash/ride for $90

and an 18" hollow logo 70's crash for $80, are pretty great deals if you ask me, whereas

vintage Paistes normally cost way more. I find that A Zildjians always had a high frequency tone

that i found to be a little harsh, but not terrible. With a nicely aged patina, some of those tones will

not be present, and make the cymbals a lot warmer sounding.

So what to do you guys think ? Should i visit the Zildjian camp, or should i stick with what i've got ?

Whatever the case, i just thought it would interesting to read some comments on this.

Cheers,

Rob

Posted on 7 years ago
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Hey Rob,

I always say you should play whatever you're feeling or hearing at that moment in time.

I have many kits and over 250 (!) cymbals. I play all different brands. I go for sound, not brand or series. Most of mine are B20 Professional line cymbals, but I do have some (probably less than 10%) that are mid-line or even budget line cymbals. I use them all, if they sound "right" to me and fit with the overall sound of the kit and fit the sound of the gig I am currently playing.

It's interesting that you mention A. Zildjians having high frequency overtones. They do, but more in a subtle way to me. Ironically, I always thought Paiste had really high, piercing overtones on most of their models, almost to a point of turning me off on some, so it's a very interesting observation you make, especially as a Paiste guy.

I've always felt that sound and not brand is more important than anything else. Sticking with one brand just because you're a "(fill in brand) Guy" is self defeating, to me. It's like saying "Boy that new burger at Burger King looks really delicious, but I'm a McDonald's guy, so ........". So, unless Paiste is paying you a handsome sum to play only their product, I say go for it! Don't forget Sabian, Dream, UFIP, and on and on and on. We have an overwhelming number of choices these days, more than ever before. I say embrace it and try to find the sound that YOU want, not the sound that a brand wants you to think is yours.

Posted on 7 years ago
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^^Didn't even realize the actual Burrrger Kinggg Guy emoticon would show up when I made that anaolgy. Happy unintended consequence!

(Intentionally misspelled Burger and King so that the actual word would show up and not the BK Guy again, LOL).

Moral of my post:

Play whatever brand sounds good to you, and eat burgers when contemplating new cymbal choices! Laughing H

Posted on 7 years ago
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From vyacheslav

^^Didn't even realize the actual Burrrger Kinggg Guy emoticon would show up when I made that anaolgy. Happy unintended consequence!(Intentionally misspelled Burger and King so that the actual word would show up and not the BK Guy again, LOL).Moral of my post: Play whatever brand sounds good to you, and eat burgers when contemplating new cymbal choices! Laughing H

Hi vycheslav.. Thanks for your reply and input..Lol ! That's a pretty funny coincidence with the "Burger King guy"LoLoLoLo I totally agree with your philosophy on using what sounds right..I'm a Paiste user by choice.

Even though most of my drumming influences used Paiste, i think i was drawn to that sound, and i guess that's why i like the sound so much, because of the music. I think i'm gonna go for it..I keep watching mycymbal.com video demos of the Zildjian cymbals i've had my eye on, and they sound great and very versatile ..Can this be the beginning of a permanent residence with Zildjian ? Probably not.. But i do feel a little guilty, in a good way LoLoLoLo

Posted on 7 years ago
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