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Ludwig epic series

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Yes, NOT vintage i know :D but i need some info.

Just a few weeks ago, I had thought about selling my vintage Yamaha kit to purchase the new Ludwig Club Date drums that came out last year in the more compact "Downbeat" sizes.. But my instinct tells me to keep the Yamaha, and just go for a nice gigging kit in the same sizes that doesn't break the bank, and can be a good workhorse kit without worrying too much about having anything happen to them..

So, in my quest to find a decent, modern, semi-pro gigging of great value and quality in the elusive "downbeat" sizes, i came across this very nice Ludwig Epic series kit.. Sizes are 10-12-14-20 in what looks to be a stunning cherry sunburst fade (not sure if that's the actual name of finish)..It comes with crummy beginner brass cymbals, and cheap hardware, except for the actual double tom holder and it's base, which is obviously Ludwig.. I don't know too much about the Epic series, except that they're a 6 ply maple/birch hybrid, are thin, lightweight shells (perfect for gigging, and easy on the back !), but that's about it..

I checked some forums out on this series and most, if not all were positive personal reviews and accounts on this now discontinued series that was offered by Ludwig less than a decade ago..I especially like the "smokey chrome" lugs and rims, (Ludwig also offered a very nice "vintage bronze" finish on the hardware as well).. and overall, it seems like a very good gigging kit.. From what i've researched on the internet, the bass drums had 10 lugs, as does this one..

Seller says his is a 20" kick, but when i checked on the internet, the Epic 20" kicks have 8 lugs.. Now my question is, did Ludwig make both 8 and 10 lug bass drums in the 20" size in this series, or is the seller mistaken ?..From what i can tell in the pics, the sizes he states look to be accurate..Does anyone else think these are downbeat sizes ?

Any and all thoughts are appreciated..

Cheers,

Rob

http://www.kijiji.ca/v-batterie-percussion/ville-de-montreal/batterie-ludwig-drum/1255468260?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true

Posted on 8 years ago
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Hey Human! A couple years ago I snagged an Epic Modular kit, the one with 2 20x8 kicks that hook together to become one kick. I really missed my little Premier kit with a 20x8 kick & wanted a little gigging kit. The shells were nice quality (for offshore) birch shells with decent bearing edges. The hardware was rather flimsy though, and I ended snapping a lug insert on the snare, something that has never happened to me, especially on a non-vintage kit. I would keep your Yammies over a kit from the Epic series any day of the week! I gigged my Stage Customs for a decade without any sign of hardware fatigue. In terms of tone, the Epics won't be supplying the Ludwig "mojo" either. I know your are on the hunt right now. The right kit will come along.

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Posted on 8 years ago
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From funkypoodle

Hey Human! A couple years ago I snagged an Epic Modular kit, the one with 2 20x8 kicks that hook together to become one kick. I really missed my little Premier kit with a 20x8 kick & wanted a little gigging kit. The shells were nice quality (for offshore) birch shells with decent bearing edges. The hardware was rather flimsy though, and I ended snapping a lug insert on the snare, something that has never happened to me, especially on a non-vintage kit. I would keep your Yammies over a kit from the Epic series any day of the week! I gigged my Stage Customs for a decade without any sign of hardware fatigue. In terms of tone, the Epics won't be supplying the Ludwig "mojo" either. I know your are on the hunt right now. The right kit will come along.

Hey Funkypoodle !

Thanks for the reply ! Don't worry, i wouldn't sell my Yamaha to replace it with the Epic kit.. The Ludwig kit was to be a workhorse kit that i wouldn't worry so much about, with a more modern sound, and wasn't looking to achieve the Ludwig "vintage" sound.. Birch /maple/ Birch wouldn't exactly give me that sound anyway.. As far as the snare goes, it doesn't come with one, and it doesn't matter.. All the overseas snare Ludwig makes are absolute crapolla, period, and i'm not surprised that they snapped on you the way it did.. I spoke to fellow forum member drumfx today and told him about the kit. He said they were well made and never had a problem with any of the lugs or hardware..But thanks for letting me know about that..! ;)

Cheers,

Rob

Posted on 8 years ago
#3
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I played some Epic drums for several years. Great sounding drums. Another kit they don't make anymore but sounds amazing are the Element Birch drums. I have a set and they are some of the best sounding drums I have heard!

Posted on 8 years ago
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From ardrummer

I played some Epic drums for several years. Great sounding drums. Another kit they don't make anymore but sounds amazing are the Element Birch drums. I have a set and they are some of the best sounding drums I have heard!

Hi ardrummer,

Thanks for the reply.. As i researched these drums further, i'm seeing nothing but positive reviews about them..I may just end up getting them, but i'm waiting to sell off some gear so i can fund this purchase, but i'm afraid that the way things are going, the drums will be sold before i can raise the money.. We'll see what happens..

Cheers,

Rob

Posted on 8 years ago
#5
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Hope you get them! You can't go wrong with birch and maple and Ludwig D' Drummer

Posted on 8 years ago
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