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28" Zildjian Ride cymbal what is it worth ?

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Hey everyone , I have a 28" Zildjian ride cymbal and it is a monster ride, what is it worth.

I had Armand Zildjian look and play at it back it the day, and he about fell over backward over it, he said, he has not seen one or play one since the machine that makes it was taken away for the war effort from the Zildjian factory before the start of World War 2.He said it was a real treat for him to play it, and ask where did I get it ? That what he told me.

I thinking of selling it.

Thanks for any help.

http://reverb.com/item/4280567-monster-zildjian-28-ride-cymbal-a-series

Posted on 7 years ago
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Lets see it please!


Thank you!
Jeff C

"Enjoy every sandwich" Warren Zevon
Posted on 7 years ago
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Yes, please, let's see it! I bet that big girl sounds amazing! Would you take weekly payments (just kidding...probably)?

Brian

Just a drummer who loves all things about vintage drums! Nothing more, nothing less.
Posted on 7 years ago
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One on eBay right now at a Buy It Now price of $1500 plus shipping.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/SUPER-RARE-Vintage-50s-Zildjian-28-Ride-Cymbal-/232234056130?hash=item36123a79c2:g:Gq8AAOSwNnRYm6yD

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Posted on 7 years ago
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From PressRoll

Notice that eBay one is a mid 50s Hartrick Large Stamp Type 1 (aka Hollow Block). So if somebody took away the machine which made them this big, they must have returned it after the war. The more common story is that metals were in short supply and that's why Zildjian made fewer large cymbals.

The expected price is influenced by the Trademark Stamp. Here's my pricing research which is based on completed sales (not asking prices):

http://black.net.nz/avedis/avedis-prices.html

and although I've got a few more 26-ers in my completed sales since that analysis, the only 28-ers I've ever recorded are gongs.

These are the main factors which enter into the predictive pricing equations

condition (photos would help assess this)

weight

production era (trademark stamp plus style of hammering and lathing and bell morphology)

You can check the trademark on my site

http://black.net.nz/avedis/avedis-by-years.html

or you can post a picture here. More pictures equals better price estimates.

The largest diameter I've recorded is 30". That was a 1970s era cymbal which sold for $1500 on 16-Feb-2016. Is that a reasonable expected price for yours? Hard to say on such limited evidence. Based on completed sales for cymbals larger than 23" it doesn't look like larger diameter automatically adds value once you get past 24". This looks like a case where despite being relatively uncommon, they aren't so highly sought after. Perhaps because they are a collectable novelty rather than a bread and butter ride cymbal in most people's minds.

If it is a pre WWII cymbal the expected value would be higher than if it is later.

Posted on 7 years ago
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Now on reverb (spotted by varatrodder on CH)

https://reverb.com/item/4280567-monster-zildjian-28-ride-cymbal-a-series

and the trademark stamp is a mid 50s Hartrick Large Stamp Type II (LS2) from what I see.

** edit ** see my later post. Now determined to be a 60s stamp not mid 50s, with a reasonably high degree of certainty despite the poor photo.

Posted on 7 years ago
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So if Avedis played it, it was probably in the factory maybe?

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Posted on 7 years ago
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So if Avedis played it, it was probably in the factory maybe?

That's Armand Zildjian not Avedis Zildjian in the story. But yes, it would be interesting to know both where and when the event happened.

Posted on 7 years ago
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Sorry- meant Armand...

Cobalt Blue Yamaha Recording Custom 20b-22b-8-10-12-13-15-16f-18f
Red Ripple '70's Yamaha D-20 20b-12-14f
Piano Black Yamaha Recording Custom Be-Bop kit 18b-10-14f
Snares:
Yamaha COS SDM5; Yamaha Cobalt Blue RC 5-1/2x14; Gretsch round badge WMP; 1972 Ludwig Acrolite; 1978 Ludwig Super Sensitive; Cobalt Blue one-off Montineri; Yamaha Musashi 6.5X13 Oak; cheap 3.5X13 brass piccolo
Posted on 7 years ago
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Update: further analysis shows that the stamp on this cymbal is much more likely to be a 1960s stamp not a mid 50s Type II Large Stamp. Of course, a photo of the underside would have settled the matter more effectively. But it's looking like the OP just came for a quick valuation rather than a long stay.

Posted on 7 years ago
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