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Vintage Ludwig Restoration: Which glue for sticking wrap inlay to BD Hoop

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Hi there - I am in the process of restoring a 1971 SBP Ludwig 22" bass drum and 16" floor tom. My job is virtually complete but I need to stick the Blue Sky Pearl inlays onto the bass drum hoops now. What glue would you guys suggest I use? I see some sites mention tape?

These drums are in great shape - the wrap is like new (obviously faded but no scratches or other marks) and the bearing edges are in very good condition as is the inside of the shells. All 100% original and no extra holes. Some pitting on the lugs which I tried my best with. The marks are there but they shine at least. I also have original Ludwig heads for both drums but will be replacing both batter heads - 16" with a Remo Coated and not sure about the kick as yet.

As for a 13" tom, I could not find a similar era (blue/Olive badge and clear maple inside) tom in SBP but found one in Marine White Pearl - it is a 1970 drum with clear inner and blue/olive badge - so unfortunately the tom will not match color wise but i think it may actually look quite cool. Waiting for the tom to arrive from the USA.

Here's some pics:

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Drums: Ludwig / Star / Tama / Yamaha
Snares: Arai /Mapex / Ludwig / Slingerland / Star / Tama
Cymbals: Meinl / Paiste / Tosco / Wuhan /Zildjian / Zyn
Posted on 7 years ago
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Double sided carpet tape from the hardware store. Use minimal amounts every 12". It will hold nicely and you can remove the wrap easily if you need without damaging the hoop.

Keep fixing them up...
Posted on 7 years ago
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I've always used the same contact cement I've used for the wrap on the shells. I forget the name, but it was supplied along with the wrap from Precision and was a water based cement. It worked well. I reinstalled the tacks on hoops that still them so as to give the ends the same security they had from the factory.

Posted on 7 years ago
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From Precision:

"Drum wraps should be adhered to drum shells using 3M 30-NF contact cement. You may be able to find it in your local hardware store, or purchase it from us. One quart will cover a five piece kit or more. Note: using any other adhesive products will void our results guarantee."

Obviously there are other methods, including the double-sided tape mentioned above.

Posted on 7 years ago
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From Dan Boucher

I've always used the same contact cement I've used for the wrap on the shells. I forget the name, but it was supplied along with the wrap from Precision and was a water based cement. It worked well. I reinstalled the tacks on hoops that still them so as to give the ends the same security they had from the factory.

3M 30-NF Neutral water based contact cement is what Precision Drum recommends.

Posted on 7 years ago
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Thank you very much. I will have to see whether the 3M 30-NF is available here in South Africa. If not, I think that the double sided tape is the way to go - especially since it is such a narrow strip, I think that some tape every 10 - 12" as suggested by drumfx should do the job. Your input is much appreciated.

Drums: Ludwig / Star / Tama / Yamaha
Snares: Arai /Mapex / Ludwig / Slingerland / Star / Tama
Cymbals: Meinl / Paiste / Tosco / Wuhan /Zildjian / Zyn
Posted on 7 years ago
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From Black Label

Thank you very much. I will have to see whether the 3M 30-NF is available here in South Africa. If not, I think that the double sided tape is the way to go - especially since it is such a narrow strip, I think that some tape every 10 - 12" as suggested by drumfx should do the job. Your input is much appreciated.

Put the tape fully covered or listen to it vibrate.

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Posted on 7 years ago
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Depending on the depth of the channel in your BD hoops and the thickness of the tape, the tape may cause the inlay to sit "proud", above the plane of the outer surface of the hoop. Original hoops may have deeper channels than the ones from precision, which are what I have on my Club Dates. I used contact cement at the ends of the strips only. Although I subsequently applied varathane to the hoop and inlay, which got underneath and stuck it all the way around, the inlay did not rattle previous to the varathane application.

My recommendation is contact cement all the way round. You can apply to only one surface, since it's a bit tricky to get it right in/on such a narrow channel/surface. The cement will dry and perform despite not being applied to both surfaces.

Mitch

Posted on 7 years ago
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You can use anything from the 3M product already mentioned to good old fashioned Elmer's Glue All. Tape dries and loses adhesion over time, use a good contact cement or some other quality adhesive. The finished product will last longer.

John

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Posted on 7 years ago
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Let me piggyback onto this thread if may ...

I'm working on restoring my Star set. Last night I took lugs off of the tom to clean and most of the wrap comes off. Doesn't appear to have been glued at all except at the end of the wrap (which has long since lost its stick).

1) What glue should I use here?

2) Should I just glue that part back down again and leave the wrap mostly unglued?

3) Is there a way to remove the old glue, which has left a white stripe behind where the wrap has shrunk a bit?

Thanks,

-Doug

late 60s Ludwig Standard kit (blue strata)
late 60s Star kit (red satin)
Tama Rockstar Custom
a few snares ...
Posted on 7 years ago
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