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Hello everyone, I'm new here and recently starting to collect vintage snare drums.

Purposed from Dutch drum builders, for example Van der Glas, Royal, Triumph, Vancore etc. Now I have come into possession of a messing drum which I know nothing about and wishes to ask for your help.

Does anyone tell me some more about this messing drum: the diameter is 14 inches and 6 inches high. In the boiler and both hoops are the digits "1395" installed.

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Posted on 7 years ago
#1
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Hello and Welcome to the forum!

I really don't have a clue on this snare drum, but as more of our members see it, someone should be able to offer up some information.

-Mark

Posted on 7 years ago
#2
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It looks SONOR to me because of that knob. I`ll look further and see if I am right.

Look for a triangle stamped into the shell or hoops.

It`s a drum,.....Hit It !!

.....76/#XK9207 Phonic Sound Machine D454/D-505 snares !i
Posted on 7 years ago
#3
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Checks out, I see the hook on the throw too, but the wing nut looks changed out. It came in 6 and 8 lugs. Ran from the early 30`s to the 50`s catalogs. It`s a marching drum and those numbers can be the ID of the class or school. Military would have the red and white tooth pattern on the hoops. I`m pretty sure on this. It`s Copper.

I can`t transfer the pic or cat because I don`t know how. Henk has them protected somehow.

It`s a drum,.....Hit It !!

.....76/#XK9207 Phonic Sound Machine D454/D-505 snares !i
Posted on 7 years ago
#4
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This is some talk about it but the pics. have been removed for some reason.

http://www.sonormuseum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=11822&hilit=Copper+drum+early+copper+snare+drum

It`s a drum,.....Hit It !!

.....76/#XK9207 Phonic Sound Machine D454/D-505 snares !i
Posted on 7 years ago
#5
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I have no doubt yours is the more rare Red Copper.

It`s a drum,.....Hit It !!

.....76/#XK9207 Phonic Sound Machine D454/D-505 snares !i
Posted on 7 years ago
#6
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To me that Looks like an Amati Snare...

regards

Christian

Posted on 7 years ago
#7
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From OddBall

It looks SONOR to me because of that knob. I`ll look further and see if I am right. Look for a triangle stamped into the shell or hoops.

Thank for your answer.

I look for the triangle, but I can't see it. Inside of the shell I see that someone have place the digit "1395". And you are wright it's no messing but copper.

Posted on 7 years ago
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From ChristianB

To me that Looks like an Amati Snare...regardsChristian

Thank you for your answer, but how do you come to an Amati Snare? Do you have pictures of an comparable?

Posted on 7 years ago
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From TrommelEddiw

Thank you for your answer, but how do you come to an Amati Snare? Do you have pictures of an comparable?

There were a dozen or so companies that produced these shells, the Red Copper mine is in Germany. The hardware separates the brands. I see the knob on the hoop and shell, and the longer hook on the snare throw. To me that says SONOR. Can we see the butt end and throw off more clearly if you can?

It`s a drum,.....Hit It !!

.....76/#XK9207 Phonic Sound Machine D454/D-505 snares !i
Posted on 7 years ago
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