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Re-wrap Experience

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I think it is generally assumed that to re-wrap a drum shell you must remove the original wrap...at least in my case this was not necessary. I just installed JamminSam's Gold Sparkle on a 1961 Ludwig Pioneer I purchased on ebay. The original white pearl wrap was tight with no cracks or separations and it was inter-lapped under the final wood ply about 3 inches. I installed the new wrap per JamminSam's instructions, but without removing the original white pearl. I was careful to get it as tight and straight as possible. After the new wrap was on I went around the edges with a small piece of 220 grit sand paper to lightly round over the sharp edge (burr) so the new heads (Remo Emperor) would not have something to catch on. I also lightly applied paraffin wax on the lower inside edge of the head rims to insure they would not stick to the wrap. The heads slipped on in a normal manner, they adjust easily and the drum looks and sounds great.

Before you start ripping off an original wrap that is in good condition, do a "dry fit" to see if it needs to be removed. With all hardware removed from the shell set on a head and hoop, place the new wrap around the shell and see if you can slip it between the head rim and the shell without force. If you want to do a test before you purchase the new wrap use two credit cards on opposite sides of the drum. If they will slip in the gap between the head rim and the shell chances are the new wrap may also. See if the gap is slightly wider where the existing wrap ends. If so, that's where to put the seam of the new wrap. Or, you might have to cut out a ½ strip on each edge at the seam as shown in Sam's instructions regarding tight fitting heads. In any case it's worth checking. You might save yourself a lot of work and spare the shell a lot of abuse.

Gary G.
1963 Ludwig Gold Sparkle Hollywood Kit
Ludwig Collection: 10 Vintage Snare Drums, 4 Customized Vintage Snare Drums, 4 Vintage Foot Pedals, 1 Single Value Bugle
Posted on 15 years ago
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[COLOR="DarkRed"]It's a thought. It has been done (obviously, you just did it). And definitely, the hardest part of a rewrap is removing the existing wrap.

I am glad the head fit worked out OK for you. In many cases, it won't; particularly with a thicker wrap like a sparkle or a glitter. One may end up feathering the edges until eternity. Also, did you put on clears or coateds ? What brand heads ? Some mfr's are tighter than others, some coateds are tighter than clears.

Also, some may argue that 2 layers of wrap would effect the resonance of the shell. I dunno if I'd go for that, but some might be inclined to....

In any case, congrats on a successful project. Do post some pics.[/COLOR]

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Well....removing of the old wrap can SOMETIMES be difficult, but not always. In the case of the two Leedy & Ludwig drums I recently picked up, the wrap came off with zero issues and the top ply of the shell is in perfect shape. So in my case, this time, the re-wrap will go smoothly.

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[COLOR="DarkRed"]On the opposite end of the spectrum would be the time I accidentally set fire to a keystone-badge bass drum and almost burned down the building...Flames shooting up to the ceiling....I had to run into the basement for TWO fire extinguishers. Dammit...it took weeks to sweep out the garage after that.

However, just for anyone's info: the wrap [COLOR="Red"]burned right off[/COLOR], down to the shell.Eye Ball

A quick sanding with 80-grade, and the charred crust came right off, revealing the perfectly naked mahogany outer-ply....all ready for gluing. Clapping Happy2[/COLOR]

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From Jaye

[COLOR="DarkRed"]On the opposite end of the spectrum would be the time I accidentally set fire to a keystone-badge bass drum and almost burned down the building...[/COLOR]

I'm trying to picture how you "accidentally set fire to a keystone-badge bass drum" and I can't quite get it.

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From MastroSnare

I'm trying to picture how you "accidentally set fire to a keystone-badge bass drum" and I can't quite get it.

Heat gun??

Kevin
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From kevins

Heat gun??

heat gun + beer?

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From kevins

Heat gun??

[COLOR="DarkRed"]Vanna...show our contestant the grand prizes he has just won....

guitar3

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[COLOR="Gray"]Beware homies...old drums...old wraps....they used some friggin' strange glue and plastics back then.

It was a WFL keystone, actually, now that I think about it. Have had the same thing almost happen to old Rogers Clevelands and Eagle-badges, too...as well as old Kents.[/COLOR]

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Certainly I'm not saying that you should not, or cannot, remove the original wrap. Just that if you wished you didn't have to, there may be, in some cases, an alternative. As far as the resonance issue, that argument can probably be made against the tape method vs the glue method, as well. I suspect that in either case it would take a finely tuned ear, or oscilloscope, the notice the difference. My personal belief is that as a practical matter, it is more the size of the shell and the type of heads that makes a noticable difference in sound. Don't yell at me...I may be wrong...technically speaking.

One of you asked about the new heads...they are a Remo Emperor Vintage - Coated batter and a Remo Emperor Snare Side.

Just thought this practical experience might generate some interesting conversation that would benefit others planning the "restore" vintage drums. This is the first time I've tried anything like this...I like it, maybe I'll do more.

Gary G.
1963 Ludwig Gold Sparkle Hollywood Kit
Ludwig Collection: 10 Vintage Snare Drums, 4 Customized Vintage Snare Drums, 4 Vintage Foot Pedals, 1 Single Value Bugle
Posted on 15 years ago
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From Jaye

[COLOR="DarkRed"]Vanna...show our contestant the grand prizes he has just won....guitar3[/COLOR][COLOR="Gray"]Beware homies...old drums...old wraps....they used some friggin' strange glue and plastics back then.[/COLOR]

True that! I used a heat gun to do my first wrap-removal a couple of weeks ago on a keystone-badge field drum and managed to set the thing on fire a few times. Thankfully I'd already read Jaye's side-splittingly funny story elsewhere on the forum, so I kept a wet rag at hand. After a while, though, the rag got just a bit too dry to be of much use... and that's when I had to run for the garden hose. :eek:

In the end, I had the same experience as Jaye: the wrap burned off, leaving a beautiful mahogany outer ply underneath. Not that I'd recommend flames as the ideal wrap-removal method. :)

GG: great job on your drum! In addition to saving some time and energy, you've managed to preserve what's still a beautiful wrap underneath the new one. Have you noticed any difference in sound before and after?

Kits:
1950s Gretsch Name Band in Midnight Blue Pearl (13/16/22/14sn)
1965/66 Ludwig Club Dates rewrapped in Black Diamond Pearl (12/15/20)
Posted on 15 years ago
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