I was reading an article about vintage guitars and there value. The article said guitar collectors look for three things, condition, originality and desirability. There was no mention of rarity or what finish the particular guitar was. We as drummers, at least some of us, put more emphasis on rarity and the finish. This would explain why a 1970 Ludwig mod orange kit would fetch more than say a silver sparkle kit in the same condition and originality. In my humble opinion, this is sort of a warped way of valuing drums. I don't put much thought into a wrap, it's more about the condition and if the kit is original. Look at it this way, you have the same shells, hardware, made in the same factory, the only difference being what color plastic is covering the drums.
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I don't know what article you were reading about vintage guitars, But rare colors have a big impact on cost of a vintage guitar. but the other 3 criteria are huge factors in vintage guitars and amps, Also as in drums, Vintage guitar prices cost due to certain players has a big impact also.
This would explain why a 1970 Ludwig mod orange kit would fetch more than say a silver sparkle kit in the same condition and originality. In my humble opinion, this is sort of a warped way of valuing drums. I don't put much thought into a wrap, it's more about the condition and if the kit is original. Look at it this way, you have the same shells, hardware, made in the same factory, the only difference being what color plastic is covering the drums.
I don't see this as a warped way of looking at things. Yes while you can have two virtually identical kits as far as construction,condition, etc.. If one has a finish that was only made for lets say a year as opposed to Silver sparkle which can be more easily found, than that would have a huge impact on price. Who doesn't love to have the rare bird in the collection if they can. I think the reason the article didn't make mention of rarity and finish because those are generally smaller factors. A rare finish or rare make can't be readily added into the pricing equation. Especially if it extremely limited. I think drummers place a tad more emphasis on finish because we have so much of the same, and so little of the different.
Not a Guru, just addicted to drums
- Jay
I don't know what article you were reading about vintage guitars, But rare colors have a big impact on cost of a vintage guitar. but the other 3 criteria are huge factors in vintage guitars and amps, Also as in drums, Vintage guitar prices cost due to certain players has a big impact also.
Vintage Guitars Info - what make a vintage guitar collectible?
www.guitarhq.com › value
Oh ok the bible for vintage guitars is Vintage Guitar magazine, this is just an individual so it's rather skewed.
The info I stated is from VGM . Ok thanks.
I don't see this as a warped way of looking at things. Yes while you can have two virtually identical kits as far as construction,condition, etc.. If one has a finish that was only made for lets say a year as opposed to Silver sparkle which can be more easily found, than that would have a huge impact on price. Who doesn't love to have the rare bird in the collection if they can. I think the reason the article didn't make mention of rarity and finish because those are generally smaller factors. A rare finish or rare make can't be readily added into the pricing equation. Especially if it extremely limited. I think drummers place a tad more emphasis on finish because we have so much of the same, and so little of the different.
I understand the rarity aspect, I just don't agree with it in all cases. Why is mod orange rare? Simple, because no one bought them, so less in circulation, which means at the time they were offered, they weren't very popular. So, now all these years later, we drummers have come to realize what beauties they really are? We are all brainwashed by a few, thus making these hideous finishes more desirable.
I would love to know how these " few " are. I wouldn't say anyone was brainwashed, just look at the times and the trends. By the 1970's mod orange wasn't a hit because it didn't fit with what people were doing. Some guys now love them and go after them not only for the rarity but maybe they wanted a mod orange kit years ago but didn't have the means, or couldn't locate one. And just because you may find them hideous doesn't mean others do. I think the mod orange is a cool finish.
Not a Guru, just addicted to drums
- Jay
I think the mahogany and walnut cortex finishes are cool, so what, doesn't make them sought after. I think what Spartacus is referring to is society in general. If someone says something enough times, you tend to believe it.
I'd call that a trend. Which was more or less my point of why these finishes are either desirable or not so much. Personally I like what I like and don't allow what's popular to influence me. Always liked colors like the mod orange, or some of those crazy strata finishes. Yes I do agree there are a lot of sheep out there, always plenty of people to follow whatever the market or trend says you should. But the bottom line is it's always about what's trendy at the time, and that goes for anything really. Clothes,instruments,art,etc..
Not a Guru, just addicted to drums
- Jay
So, when did this trend start that mod orange or physc red are the holy grail? They are both ugly as sin and I predict one day soon, they will fall out of favor in the drumming community. We will all be scratching our collective heads saying, what the heck was I thinking.
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