I reckon Louie could make a set of cardboard boxes sound decent...

Showing brilliant form in that clip...

Cheers

John

PTS and Acousticon were about as close to cardboard as a drum can get.

I had a set of these, my first kit. Got them used for 60 bucks, it was all I could afford. Same color 12-13-16-22 and snare. I was into rock at the time and the higher tuning didn't fit so out came the duct tape...

Was thrilled to see Louie played them. For some reason mine never sounded this good!!!

Gary

This is quite cool!!

http://detroit.craigslist.org/mcb/msd/5343921636.html

Not mine...

Cheers

Now that will be one heavy snare drum with the REMO shell and the cast hoops and all.

Just going through some older threads and saw this amazing solo by Louie. Wow! He really killed it and he was no youngster at that point. Don't know much about those Remo drums, but yeah, he can make buckets sound right.

Louie looked to be having a lot of fun, but the other musicians sure didn't! Have you ever seen a more bored group of musicians in your life? Lol

Louie was a business partner with Remo Belli in the company, so he more or less had to use Remo drums, even though the PTS stuff was absolute sh**. The other drums they made out of that fake wood (sawdust, wood particles and glue) weren't much better. And the hardware fell apart easily.

I had an opportunity recently to detail a Remo set for a friend in exchange for some gear - it was from their later Master Edge series, and I must say I was impressed by the quality (I had heard the stories about the PTS)... although he did relate that some time earlier he had a warranty issue with a snare drum re-ring detaching. He has another Remo set I believe he said was from their "Gold Crown" series. You can see him play the Master Edge kit on YouTube:

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The trial balloon for the PTS drums was launched by Rogers when I was a district sales manager in the organization. They were known as the R 340 drums. I think that we took back as many sets of these drums as we sold. They just would not hold together. The flimsy latches that took the place of lugs would self-destruct. Some of the acousticon shells caved in. The R 340 series was a short-lived disaster while the 80's versions of the R 360 and R 380 were very successful. Remo took over marketing their acousticon drums for themselves. Some of their later upscale drums were pretty good.

I can't find a picture of the brochure for those ill-fated R 340 drums. But, I did run across one picture of a set.

Per Slingerland historian Dr. Carl Wenk the PTS Remo's were briefly offered by Slingerland under the name Oddyessy. Less than a year during '83-'84.