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Saving a painted calfskin - Opinions!

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Gentlemen,

I am seeking some ideas/opinions on what my options are for saving a beautiful painted 1920's Ludwig calfskin bass drum head.

I recently acquired this 26" Ludwig & Ludwig bass drum that I am in the process of cleaning up and assembling a complete trap kit around.

The plain batter head is in great condition, but the painted reso head has ripped along the rim on the upper half. I want to preserve the head cosmetically, and also keep it playable if possible.

I have read about the possibility of wetting calfskin and sewing it together. Unfortunately I do not see that being a viable option for this head since the tear is right up against the rim.

Here's an idea I am pondering over. I have another blank 26" calfskin head that is in great condition. I am trying to decide what the possibility would be of cutting the landscape head clean away from its rim and adhering it (basically gluing it) to the head that is in good condition.

I realize that this would greatly reduce the resonance of the head, but I really do not mind that so much with it being the front head. I'm just not sure if the head would be able to stay adhered to the calfskin giving how much calfskin expands and contracts with temp/humidity changes (not to mention changes in tuning tension).

What do you guys think? Any other ideas for mending this head?

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Posted on 8 years ago
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I would go with your plan to cut and affix this to another head. Seems the best option. I think with the proper adhesive the expanding and contracting won't be an issue.

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Posted on 8 years ago
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Bonding it to mylar head might work well, and save a good skin head. It might be worthwhile to call Remo tech support for info on which one of their heads and bonding agents would work. In any case I'd want to be sure the adhesive would not bleed through and disfigure the painting. Contact cement might be worth a try.

Posted on 8 years ago
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From DaveK

Bonding it to mylar head might work well, and save a good skin head. It might be worthwhile to call Remo tech support for info on which one of their heads and bonding agents would work. In any case I'd want to be sure the adhesive would not bleed through and disfigure the painting. Contact cement might be worth a try.

My thoughts too... (especially if you are thinking period correct backlighting) .

You don't want any cross grain hide pattern to show through... and a border around the edge should tidy up the torn section... For sure, and whatever, the head should be salvaged... Also, IMO, a Mylar head adhesion will have less tonal variation than a thicker Calfskin..

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Posted on 8 years ago
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I remembered this thread on DFO for repairing ripped calf heads. Post #8 is very interesting and would be the first choice I'd try to save the complete head. Done right you should be able to use it as intended as a reso head.

http://www.drumforum.org/index.php?/topic/57076-calf-head-repair/

Glenn.

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Posted on 8 years ago
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Thank you guys for the great input.

Preserving the correct look with backlighting is something I am definitely taking into consideration since the bass drum does have it's original blinking lights inside.

It does seem like a modern head would make a better base for it, but if I went the route of gluing it to another head, it would have to be another calfskin for me so that I can preserve the correct look with the wood hoops showing.

FFR, I read that thread.. very interesting about patching. I'm thinking it would be pretty challenging to get the patch pressed down while drying given the awkwardness of the area where the head is ripped. But it is certainly an option that I will be keeping in mind.

Posted on 8 years ago
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I would check the dimensions of the bass drum versus the modern day head size equivalent. I put a modern head on an old bass drum like yours and had to buy a new hoop to accommodate. The original hoop was too small for the modern head.

Posted on 8 years ago
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One idea to preserve the current opacity of the painted head would be to cut out the middle of the new "carrier" head, leaving an inch or two around the outside, and glue the painted head to that.

Just a thought...

Mitch

Posted on 8 years ago
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From dan1434

I would check the dimensions of the bass drum versus the modern day head size equivalent. I put a modern head on an old bass drum like yours and had to buy a new hoop to accommodate. The original hoop was too small for the modern head.

This is true, the drum is a 26", but the heads are actually 25.5"... fortunately the newer good condition head is a 25.5 as well. Modern mylar/plastic heads on the other hand would be a trick to come by.

From DownTownFarmer

One idea to preserve the current opacity of the painted head would be to cut out the middle of the new "carrier" head, leaving an inch or two around the outside, and glue the painted head to that.Just a thought...Mitch

That is a very interesting thought indeed!... Good thinking.. I am definitely going to consider that idea.

Posted on 8 years ago
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From skyline223

That is a very interesting thought indeed!... Good thinking.. I am definitely going to consider that idea.

Cool. It would also preserve some resonance in the...reso. If you go this route, you should probably glue the painted head on there with the carrier head under tension, otherwise the join might fail when you do tension it up...

Mitch

Posted on 8 years ago
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