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Repair Extra Holes in Rogers BD. How to do perform?

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Hey all.

I have an 18" Rogers BDP Cleveland bass that has 2 extra holes I'd like to repair. I also have the snare that's shot & am wondering if & HOW I could drill from that snare shell 2 plugs/dowels to fit back into the 2 extra holes.

I've read that dowels are typically used & the wrap is then fitted into the space left. But I thought, What better way then to remove from the snare!

Chris

Posted on 8 years ago
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Show the pics please.

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Thanks to Mr. Jerry Jenkins
Posted on 8 years ago
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I would love to see what you mean by the snare is shot. I would hate to have you cutting holes in an old rogers snare if there is any chance at all it could be salvageable. But as stated before, pictures are a big help in getting people interested in what you are trying to accomplish.

Thanks, Ryan

Posted on 8 years ago
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Plug cutter for certain size holes. Would keep the wrap on the plug.

Agree on not trashing a "shot" shell unless broken beyond repair.

Posted on 8 years ago
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Now I have a pLan to pearls oyster but not metallics

April 2nd 1969 scarfed pink champagne holly wood and 65/66 downbeat snare, and , supra same year very minty kit old pies
66/67 downbeat with canister
Super 400 small round knob
1967 super classic obp





once the brass ceases to glitter, and the drum looses its luster, and the stage remains dark, all you have left is the timbre of family.
Posted on 8 years ago
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From amosguy

Plug cutter for certain size holes. Would keep the wrap on the plug.Agree on not trashing a "shot" shell unless broken beyond repair.

Thanks amosguy. Luxor has countless extra holes & even in great condition isn't that valuable (not to mention iffy hardware) - I value it @ @ $75. So to cut a couple plugs out of it to fit into an 18" BD, with the same wrap darkening, makes a whole lot of sense.

Chris

Posted on 8 years ago
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From Hobbs

Thanks amosguy. Luxor has countless extra holes & even in great condition isn't that valuable (not to mention iffy hardware) - I value it @ @ $75. So to cut a couple plugs out of it to fit into an 18" BD, with the same wrap darkening, makes a whole lot of sense. Chris

Then yes, a plug cutter bit will be the way to go. You will need some sort of drill press, and a way to clamp the snare shell tightly. Since plug cutters have no way of holding center. I would clean up the hole in the floor tom, (unless it's perfectly rounded) then cut your plug to the next size over (unless you luck out and there is a perfect one) and sand it to fit the hole in the drum. It would be easier I am sure to cut the hole out in the floor tom larger to match, but as the floor tom is the one you are saving, I would try to keep as much original shell there as possible.

All of this is assuming that your holes aren't too large. I use hole saws in the same way as plug cutters, I just remove the centering bit from the arbor, and you can cut most any size plug you could ever need..

Hope that helps.

Thanks, Ryan

Posted on 8 years ago
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If you fill holes in an 18" drum with plugs cut from a 14" drum the plugs won't sit properly. Different outer circumferences = different curves. Best to remove the wrap from the snare, make plugs with the correct curve, dry fit them to bass drum. When they fit properly, THEN cover the new plugs with wrap. The way suggested earlier in the thread will have you being able to have the middle of the plug flush with the rest of the drum but the two edges following the circumference will sit low.

Good luck.

Posted on 8 years ago
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From mike17

If you fill holes in an 18" drum with plugs cut from a 14" drum the plugs won't sit properly. Different outer circumferences = different curves. Best to remove the wrap from the snare, make plugs with the correct curve, dry fit them to bass drum. When they fit properly, THEN cover the new plugs with wrap. The way suggested earlier in the thread will have you being able to have the middle of the plug flush with the rest of the drum but the two edges following the circumference will sit low.Good luck.

Thanks all for the comments.

mike17 : would've NEVER thought @ different circumferences until too late!

Chris

Posted on 8 years ago
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I understand that the curve of the two drums is different, but the differences in the curve of a 14 and an 18 are going to be very relatively close. I took a picture of a 14(red) next to an 18(wood).. It looks to me that unless you are filling a hole that is large you shouldn't have any problem with curvature. At least not for a patch. Just my opinion. Keep us posted on what you end up doing....

Thanks, Ryan

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