I have 20 " Class ride,2580 gr which puts it just into heavy weight wise.

I also have a 20 K heavy at 2900 gr.

The Class ride plays way lighter and is quite responsive,really pretty ping with some contrasting very trashy/ turkish wash.

Zenstats can you tell me if the 14" Hi Hats are actually 14" or are they 14+1/4" I used to have a pair, but sold them and never measured them. I'm looking for a 14 and a 1/14" cymbal at the moment and thought the the old UFiP cymbals might be a good place to start looking.

Cheers.

Hi Chromeo,

I'll be home in 2 days and can measure them then. From memory they are 35 cm so a tad under 14" (more like 13 3/4"). But if UFIP were targeting 36 cm then they would be a bit over 14". I have a feeling that UFIP have changed their target diameters at times over the decades, but I'm not sure. And remember mine are crashes paired up and not hi hats which began life as hi hats. That's another complicating factor.

And I'm back with measuring tape and cymbal in hand. My nominally 14" UFiP hats are actually 13 7/8" or about 35.2 cm. Slightly undersized in the inches realm, and slightly oversized if they were targeting 35 cm. exactly.

Just got a hold of a pair of Zanki 14" hi hats. They have a great balanced sound to them. Nice "chick", great sizzle and overall smooth, vintage tone. Research on themhttp://robscott.net/cymbals/ compares them to vintage Zildjian A's.

UFIP apparently began as a group of 4 or 5 separate cymbal makers in 1931 (if I remember correctly). One of those makers were the Zanchi bros. They were the inventers of UFIP's rotocasting that is apparently still used today in their process. In the 70's, I believe one of the grandsons started a brand called Zanki (how Zanchi is actually pronounced). Zanki made cymbals branded under different names and drum manufactures.

Here is a link with some great info! http://robscott.net/cymbals/

i'm down to just a few. i have a set of 15" hats with a vintage top (920 grams) over a modern bottom (1400 grams).

and i have this 22" UFIP medium ride (2600 grams), marked with a Slingerland stamp.

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A bit off topic sorry but EDL I really like that 40's 18" A China! It's a real sweetie! Is it on the thin side? Kind of sounds like it in the vid. Nice collection of cymbals too.

I visited the UFIP factory back in the mid-1990s, and I use an old set of much older 13" Zanchi Vibra's as my go-to hi hats for small group jazz. The tour was very cool, but they wouldn't let me take photos in the work area.

10" UFIP Bravo splash.

Looking for a 18-19" UFIP ride.

About 1000gms..and yes..its a sweetie...never thought I would like an 18 china..but this one changed my mind..