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Pre-tama superstar ?

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Hey vintage Pre-Tama experts..Came across this cool kit..Seller says it's a Tama Superstar, and it looks to be NOS, as the boxes it came in clearly say Tama.. However, the lugs don't look like any Superstar that i've seen, but they could very well be.. I seemed to have found this exact kit on the vintagedrumguide site, only on the site it says that it's a Swingstar..

So my question is, which is it ?? Another rare thing that i see with this kit is that it's got a 10 lug bass drum, with more than the standard amount of lugs on toms and floor tom for a pre Tama MIJ kit...

Anyone have an idea of what this kit could be exactly ?

Here are a couple of links to the kit in question, and to the VDG one..

Any thoughts are appreciated.. ;)

http://www.kijiji.ca/v-batterie-percussion/ouest-de-lile-qc/tama-vintage-superstar/1103141988?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true

http://www.vintagedrumguide.com/japanese_drums/images/Star/1965-1.jpg

Posted on 9 years ago
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I honestly don't think those drums are Tama, regardless of the box they were in. I've been doing some research and the 9900 series would have been in the late 70's. However, I can't find the actual 9900! That box only shows a snare drum, rack tom and floor tom. I'm also very familiar with Cherry Wine, as I had a 1986 Tama in this color. It's a gorgeous stained finish. The kit in question appears to be a wrap. Let's see what others have to say. But, for now, I don't think it's a Tama kit.

-Mark

Posted on 9 years ago
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Found it! The 9900 is in the 1981 General catalog. Here's a link... http://www.tamadrum.co.jp/anniversary/expansion.php?cat_id=47&now=4

As you can see, the kit is the X-TRAS series and consisted of 11x12, 12x13 and 16x16 toms, with a 16x22 bass drum and 6.5x14 metal-shell snare drum. It would have been shipped in 2 boxes, with separate boxes for the hardware. I think we can safely say that the drums in question are not Tama!

-Mark

Posted on 9 years ago
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From idrum4fun

Found it! The 9900 is in the 1981 General catalog. Here's a link... http://www.tamadrum.co.jp/anniversary/expansion.php?cat_id=47&now=4As you can see, the kit is the X-TRAS series and consisted of 11x12, 12x13 and 16x16 toms, with a 16x22 bass drum and 6.5x14 metal-shell snare drum. It would have been shipped in 2 boxes, with separate boxes for the hardware. I think we can safely say that the drums in question are not Tama!-Mark

I had a feeling that they weren't Tama, however they look an awful lot like the kit in the vintagedrumguide site, only that kit is in a Metallic Gold,.. Can't really tell from the pics.. Let's what others have to say, but so far, your conclusion is beginning to make more and more sense..

Thanks idrum4fun !

Posted on 9 years ago
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Hate to beat a dead horse, but I just found the actual 9900CS! Here's the link, which is from the actual X-TRAS catalog from 1983! http://www.tamadrum.co.jp/anniversary/expansion.php?cat_id=55&now=2

It's obvious that seller doesn't have a clue what the drums are. My gut says there are MIJ or MIT drums valued at $200 or less.

-Mark

Posted on 9 years ago
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From idrum4fun

Hate to beat a dead horse, but I just found the actual 9900CS! Here's the link, which is from the actual X-TRAS catalog from 1983! http://www.tamadrum.co.jp/anniversary/expansion.php?cat_id=55&now=2It's obvious that seller doesn't have a clue what the drums are. My gut says there are MIJ or MIT drums valued at $200 or less.-Mark

I knew that Cherry Wine was a stain finish made famous by Tama on their Superstar kits.. I actually owned one in the natural finish..I think this dude has a Supreme drum kit from the early 70's, but i'll see what others have to say first..

Thanks Mark

Posted on 9 years ago
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Close-ups of the badge would shed light on this. Likely not post-74 Tama, as the lugs indicate before then - but I may be wrong and not familiar enough with the early 74ish Tama.

I had a great day! Instead of sleeping in and wasting the day, I got up at 8 and I had all my slacking done by noon!

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Posted on 9 years ago
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From Drummerjohn333

Close-ups of the badge would shed light on this. Likely not post-74 Tama, as the lugs indicate before then - but I may be wrong and not familiar enough with the early 74ish Tama.

Well, the seller contacted me and he said he had the drums in the wrong box, which means they are NOT Tama, just as Mark and I suspected..Whatever the case, the ad is gone, which means he either already sold it, or will be putting up the ad later on with the real description.. Anyway, i passed on it.. When i see mysterious ads like this, i tend to go a little "drum flip" crazy ;)

Thanks to you guys for the input..

cheers,

Rob

Posted on 9 years ago
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From human71

Well, the seller contacted me and he said he had the drums in the wrong box, which means they are NOT Tama, just as Mark and I suspected..Whatever the case, the ad is gone, which means he either already sold it, or will be putting up the ad later on with the real description.. Anyway, i passed on it.. When i see mysterious ads like this, i tend to go a little "drum flip" crazy ;)Thanks to you guys for the input..cheers,Rob

Hi Rob,

Glad you passed on these, as I don't feel they were Tama at all!

-Mark

Posted on 9 years ago
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