Do Trixon T-rods have metric threads like MIJs?

The bass drum T-rod in the photo is older 1960's Japanese issue.

These were manufactured knock-offs of Trixon rods, but unlike the Trixon bass T-rods which were 5mm x .8mm threads, embossed with the "Trixon" logo across the handles, these knock-offs were made with standard 12-24" threads, with no embossing.

I've often seen these knock-offs incorrectly listed for auction on eBay; described as "genuine Trixon bass drum rods".

Pity the poor purchaser who finds to their dismay that none of these rods will fit Trixon drums.

Thankx for the info- the spade style tom mounts say 'Made in Japan' but no other markings are on the drums- no badges but a nail hole evenly spaced on each side of the vent....yeah Buckie they do look like Gretsch knock offs- and I'll look up Trixon to see how close they ripped the design off! here is a vent hole and what is left of the dampener (2 like this):

Thanks again!

(LATER...) You nailed it Buckie- I pulled a rod outta my '68 Luddy Keystones and the 'fake' Trixon fits right in there... good heads up for potential Trixon buyers- the real ones do say 'Trixon' in cursive and have a pebbled or 'bead blast' background- fakes have no name and a crosshatch background. Thanks again- and you think probably Norma? on my Japanese set.......I appreciate your help-JD

The two nails would be correct for a Norma Badge JD

There would of course normally be a metal grommet in the center

But on the drum in my pic it is missing

THANKS ALL- You got it ID'd straightaway-Kenwood that's a forensic answer!- (nail-hole analysis)...great!- now I know I can use them for whatever I like as they have been abused much anyway (the guy was gonna pay me to take them away)- so I can salvage what I want for fun. Probably won't use the bass rods but will keep them on a shelf as a 'bastardized Trixon' part! Just to show others what NOT to buy... they are cool and I can see why Trixon used them now thanks to Buckie_B ....Knowledge appreciated as always! (and a new appreciation for lost tooling....) Thanks again JD

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Just alittle info on these T rods and. claws these copys of Trixon back in the mid 60s Mr. Cooper of West Coast Drums in Santa Ana,ca had these made by Tama (star) he used these on alot of the drums he imported when he put the drums together in the U.S. i still have boxes of these at my shop..

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