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Aging Cymbals...Removing Shine?

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From zenstat

Have you personally done this? Burying is a technique I haven't tried, although I do have an 18" trans stamp which was found buried in a field in Idaho. But that gives no before/after comparison.

Yes and it works well, the healthier your soil is the better.

I know It seems drastic but it works better than anything else.

Somehow the microbes are able to put years of patina back once it's been removed by a cleaner..

As for vinegar I use it to clean my AR aluminum wheels on my 97 TJ Wrangler and it makes them look like new CDs.

Posted on 9 years ago
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From Slingalud

Yes and it works well, the healthier your soil is the better. I know It seems drastic but it works better than anything else. Somehow the microbes are able to put years of patina back once it's been removed by a cleaner..

Very interesting. How long did you leave it buried?

- EMD
Posted on 9 years ago
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From Slingalud

Yes and it works well, the healthier your soil is the better. I know It seems drastic but it works better than anything else. Somehow the microbes are able to put years of patina back once it's been removed by a cleaner..As for vinegar I use it to clean my AR aluminum wheels on my 97 TJ Wrangler and it makes them look like new CDs.

Not drastic at all provided you remember where you buried it and don't go looking for it with a pick or shovel. ;)

I've got a B20 cymbal I'm going to try it out on. Our soil is very healthy. Lots of compost we make ourselves. Plenty of microbes. I will take before and after photos and report back in 3 weeks.

Posted on 9 years ago
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Just thought I'd mention, last year I got a 50s 20" zildjian ride, for big band stuff. I was very happy with the sound you know what it's like- it had mellowed with age. So I thought oh maybe it can go just a little bit brighter sounding, - I can't now believe I did the unforgivable and cleaned it. It totaly ruined the sound, so I tried to re-age it myself, I sprayed it with salt and vinigar and left it in the sun but I had totaly overdone it. Now I'm in a real mess with it and will have to somehow clean it again, but just the right amount. Im actually dead against doing that to a vintage cymbal. I've since got a nice 40s 22" trans stamp and that will always stay untouched. It does sometimes go a little bit dead though.

I love the jazz era
Posted on 9 years ago
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They sell a oxidation kit for brass and bronze and copper to accerlate the aging most decorators supply carry it

April 2nd 1969 scarfed pink champagne holly wood and 65/66 downbeat snare, and , supra same year very minty kit old pies
66/67 downbeat with canister
Super 400 small round knob
1967 super classic obp





once the brass ceases to glitter, and the drum looses its luster, and the stage remains dark, all you have left is the timbre of family.
Posted on 9 years ago
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zenstat - Tell us about the time you acquired an 18" trans stamp that was found buried in the ground.

Posted on 9 years ago
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From Chicago Dave

zenstat - Tell us about the time you acquired an 18" trans stamp that was found buried in the ground.

You want a short bedtime story? ;)

I got it from donbseattle who got it from dardrum and I can't remember who the owner was before that. It has whakapapa (as we say here) but not back to the first canoe. The story was that it was discovered in a field. My parents were both born in Idaho, so it seemed fitting that it found a home with me. Since I got it I discovered a tiny beginning of an edge crack (at the feel it with your fingernail stage) so I did my first solo scoop on it. But it hasn't been cleaned so this is how it looked when it arrived other than the edge scoop.

[img]http://black.net.nz/cym2014/trans-lathing.jpg[/img]

[img]http://black.net.nz/cym2014/trans-bot-lathing.jpg[/img]

It weighs 1562g and is of the last Trans stamp period. Rides and crashes nicely. At that weight and profile it is a bit higher in pitch and has that glassy Trans sound and is nice and complex. Strong bell. Delightful with two rivets. It is a common choice for LSR in my 1950s Avedis Zildjian cymbal setup. And it is a candidate for a "one cymbal gig".

Posted on 9 years ago
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From Olddrumgeek

Just thought I'd mention, last year I got a 50s 20" zildjian ride, for big band stuff. I was very happy with the sound you know what it's like- it had mellowed with age. So I thought oh maybe it can go just a little bit brighter sounding, - I can't now believe I did the unforgivable and cleaned it. It totaly ruined the sound, so I tried to re-age it myself, I sprayed it with salt and vinigar and left it in the sun but I had totaly overdone it. Now I'm in a real mess with it and will have to somehow clean it again, but just the right amount. Im actually dead against doing that to a vintage cymbal. I've since got a nice 40s 22" trans stamp and that will always stay untouched. It does sometimes go a little bit dead though.

That's how I got into restoring patina. A terrible accident and researching a recovery. I've got 2 fully documented cases, but putting all the info in here might be overkill.

Posted on 9 years ago
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Well I'm sure we wouldn't mind hearing.:2Cents:

I love the jazz era
Posted on 9 years ago
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From zenstat

That's how I got into restoring patina. A terrible accident and researching a recovery. I've got 2 fully documented cases, but putting all the info in here might be overkill.

I'd like to hear the story too if you don't mind telling. ;)

Glenn.

Not a guru just havin fun with some old dusty drums.
Posted on 9 years ago
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