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Help replacing rare throwoff/strainer on old Sonor snare

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Posted on 9 years ago
#11
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From Futureman!

*Maybe.* The bottom of the cover is in bad shape, and seems pretty essential to a properly working throw/strainer. The whole darn thing came apart today, so now it's a matter of reassembling the mechanism as well as trying to repair the cover. Since this is my only snare, I think I'd like to find a new throw/strainer that fits the existing holes and just wait for something to pop up on eBay.

Sometimes you can make a thin wood block, mount that to the drum through the holes, and mount whatever to the block and save the holes.

You get the Idea ?

It`s a drum,.....Hit It !!

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Posted on 9 years ago
#12
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Did you put that spacer ring thingy on the shell ? Henk says it`s not original and don`t belong there. The one partially blocking the vent hole.

It`s a drum,.....Hit It !!

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Posted on 9 years ago
#13
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Don`t listen to SONOR. No-one in that building or administration knows anything at all about teardrops.

It`s a drum,.....Hit It !!

.....76/#XK9207 Phonic Sound Machine D454/D-505 snares !i
Posted on 9 years ago
#14
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...wahhhh, sonor said "drill it!". please don't. your snare is a really nice D467! i am looking a while now for one of those. i'am working with my dad on a metal-solution for this plastic-strainer problem. this will take a while tough. i would suggest you use the 2 holes wich are

original and you make yourself a adapter that doesn't make it necessary to drill for a new strainer!

Posted on 9 years ago
#15
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Depending on how eager you are to play it and to find a replacement, you could also consider a workable fix-up, for the time being:

http://www.stdrums.de/shop/product_info.php?info=p2476_strainerschiene.html

I have no experience with it, and I'm not sure if I like it esthetically, but it might do the job.

Posted on 9 years ago
#16
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I know these strainers quite well.

The mechanism can be reassembled with little difficulty, providing you have rudimentary skills with basic tools and a set of metric tap and dies with the smallest size being 3mm. x .05mm.

First and foremost, the entire throwoff housing must be removed, by unfastening the two bolt or screw attachments holding it to the shell. From the photo you've included, it appears that this throwoff may have been retro-altered for use with non factory parts and (?) possibly an additional washer/gasket. Without having the drum to examine, it is not possible for me to ascertain the overall condition of the housing "box" and the integrity of its structure - herein lies the "rub", if you will - my online observations can only provide so much help to you.

To repair the internal throwoff mechanism, the housing must be first removed from the drum. The central post through which the knurled tensioning knob is threaded can only be released after the knurled knob is unscrewed completely. This is a prerequisite for disassembly so that you can rebuild and repair these parts.

A thin tin backing plate fits into the bottom of the housing. It has a central hole through which the bushing post fits. The knurled knob and a tiny hex securing nut at the smallest tip (if memory serves me here) are the only other moving parts! There should be a tiny metal ring attachment visible through which the snare cord is threaded. Simplicity is beauty!

The "cap" simply fits into the outermost circular housing 'box', and is made of metal - it is what you see when standing perpendicular to the drum and looking at the strainer/throwoff. It has an inner molded ridge which fits into the circular housing, and holds itself in with its own pressure. As other forum members have previously attested, keep the cap - do not lose it.

note: Some of these throwoffs have their "caps" further secured with a tiny flat head screw holding it on to the housing. If no screw is present, or you have unscrewed the one that is present, the cap can be carefully removed using a thin screwdriver or wedge or some sort, using slight pressure all around the bottom edge of the cap. Care is required to avoid further damage to the plastic housing.

The throwoff housing "box" is molded plastic, and should be able to be glued back together quite securely using nothing other than airplane modeling glue containing toluene. Any discoloring caused by the toluene can be recolored afterwards with some careful sanding and some chrome colored acrylic paint.

In the last resort, if all has failed, a vintage 60's Sonor single-stick throwoff can be purchased online. It fits the two horizontal holes in the shell with no further drilling required, and functions equally well to make your drum playable again. If I locate one online I will post another thread for you with a link to it.

Feel free to PM me if I can be of further help.

Don't give up - all's not lost!

Posted on 9 years ago
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Oddball: Nope. Wasn't me. I had no idea it had an additional and improper part.

Wouter: is that a strainer adapter? I'm afraid I can't read German.

Bickie: I may go with the single stick throwoff for now (assuming I can find one) until I get the original repaired or replaced. I assume they are easier to find?

Thank you all for your suggestions!

Posted on 9 years ago
#18
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From Futureman!

Wouter: is that a strainer adapter? I'm afraid I can't read German.

Here's the english link: http://www.stdrums.de/shop/product_info.php?language=en&info=p2476_strainerschiene.html&=&XTCsid=86f54428f101491757b7200688c0c9d2

If I get it right, you'll mount this adapter to your snare by drilling two holes in it corresponding to the original ones. Then, you can mount your replacement strainer (without matching holes) to the adapter, with the other two bolts.

Or the other way around.

But the owners of that webshop do speak English and are cool, helpful people. Just ask them how it should work.

Posted on 9 years ago
#19
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Thanks, wouter. This is a possibility if I cannot find either Sonor throwoffs.

Posted on 9 years ago
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