Had that issue on a 50's A ride. Irritated the crap out of me every time I pulled it off the stand.

Don't know if this will work with yours but I've got an old UFIP with a small hole and I put a rubber grommet on it, flipped the insert and put the felt on top of that. Basically the rubber grommet takes the place of the insert. Not sure if that makes any sense??

Steve

That does make sense. I considered this but was thinking that the grommet would take away some resonance, at least in a subtle way. I'm going to see how it is with just a plastic sleeve over the threads and a washer with felt on the bottom - or maybe I'll try the inverted sleeve trick instead of the washer as you suggest.

On second thought a grommet might be the only way to go. I picked up some straight inserts and they were thicker than expected. Anyone have experience with using those?

I will have a vintage cymbal adapter available soon which changes the common post size from 8mm to 6mm. may give a discount to forum members, finishing up the testing of the proto and waiting for more parts to arrive. Looking good so far. I even had a modern Sabian ride that was digging into its 8mm sleeve because the outside diameter of the sleeve was barely bigger than the hole in the cymbal, limiting it's range when crashing (even gently). I can't tell you why they decided to make these things fit so tight, it was ruining the dynamic range of my ride not to mention possibly putting it at risk of damage. The wing nut was not the limiting factor, even with no nut the cymbal would bind on the sleeve (a standard modern 8mm by the most common manufacturer). As others have mentioned, there are other solutions, I just think a lot of people would appreciate a simple adapter. Will keep you posted.

Definitely interested...

Yeah, I may be too.

/Magnus

Search "Small Hole Vintage Cymbal Adapter" or my username on fleabay, will have more available in a few weeks. Comes with adapter post, 2 spare sleeves, and top nut. Requires a couple thin felts. The device scews right onto your stands 8mm post, allowing you to mount any cymbal with a center hole diameter down to 10mm. PM me with questions if you have any, or if there aren't any left for sale and you are interested in one of these.

Nice looking. If I hadn't recently brought my small hole cymbals up to the modern standard I'd be a starter.