Okay, how about we switch gears here... What's the least recorded snare ever????

My vote = Kents :)

The few studio drummers of that time were highly sought after due to the "system" of the day. It's not that they were the best at what they do and used the best equipment. They were good - yes. They were not the best. It was for convenience in the beginning. Most of the "bands" of the time were not tight musicians so they brought in guys to could groove steady and were creative. They laid the tracks down for the producer. The producer would call on the same guys for convenience. Once hits started flowing, they didn't change the "formula". So, the "highly sought after" statement is flawed in itself. There are MANY more drummers out there who could have done a much better job than those few. They were in the right place at the right time. So, they got the calls. If you like them, please don't defend them. I love they guys. I'm not disrespecting them. They were seriously good at what they did. BUT, to make a blanket statement that because they used such and such snare it makes it the best is just a silly statement and is extremely flawed logic. They put up some serious numbers - BECAUSE of the system of the day - not because they were the best at what they did. It started with convenience and became a self-perpetuating machine of understanding. For those of you who don't get this, please lay low. This has been the point of this entire thread. Nowhere in here was the quality of the snare up for debate. Focus on the point. ALL of the engineers and producers did not ask for that snare in that day. Did some? Yes. Still do, today. Duh! It records well and has a history. It's a good snare. My beef is with the drummers who complete the statement with "makes it the best" solely based on the "most recorded snare". It has the numbers due to the foundation of how popular music was recorded in that time period. If you understand the history, then chime in. If you are passionate about the snare, lay low. This ain't about the quality of the snare. It also ain't about disputing the actual numbers. It's about HOW those numbers came to be and how they were raised to the level they hit. It's about taking those numbers and using them in a marketing campaign - and then drummers taking this and saying "BECAUSE of these numbers - it's the best!" That's THE POINT. Get it?

WOW! How interesting is this? I am getting edcucated and now I am looking for a luddy supra! ha!

Who cares what the point is you are making it is a dead horse,and very unimportant to the free thinking world ,lol Drmmers will play, and use whatever snare they want to it is all personel choice, their is NO best just like their is no best player it is all subjective and personel. the question you should have is ,what snare do you play and do YOU think it is any good. I play a Supra 402. what do you play? do you like it? have you ever recorded your snare? any rattles,squeaks when recording? did the sound engineer like it? all the rest does not matter and i could care less. who cares about the numbers? i mean really who cares it is a sales pitch a marketing ploy and it works cause it got you hooked. lol it is like the argument of Ford verses Chevy. play what you like ,like what you play, and enjoy the music and the ride,the rest is unimportant!

If you look in the back of Joe's book master studies, there is a pic of him using a late 50's WFL Buddy Rich model snare in silver sparkle. Cool pic. I would bet that the supra is the most recorded drum. I love them!

Sounds to me like it was a very MIGHTY bit of marketing to have blown away the competition and left a legacy that will never be topped by ANY other single snare drum, ever.

I know when I hit the studio, it's a good chance a Supra will be on the snare stand.

Well I know one thing, those who don't own one will own one shortly! A thread like this sure does pic the interest. I know I will be keeping my eyes open for one.

Hi again,

I was thinking about this last night, and concluded that if the Supra was the best selling snare of all time, there would be at least the possibility to extrapolate that it COULD have been the most recorded.

So:

Was the Supra the highest selling snare of the recording era?

thanks

Patrick

Ah yes a SuperClassic....but not a Jazz Festival model... ;)

Thanks guys. You did great. I've got all I need on this one. Ludwig-Dude - YOU are amazing. You are spot on very nearly 100% of the time. I sent you a PM. I would love to sit and chew the fat with you one day. Nicely done. Later!

Michael