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I Have Sinned, Need Advice On Restore

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I was in college in the 1960's and bought a Blue Gray Duco Slingerland 5 pc. set. I thought the blue-gray paint job was horrid, still do, so in the 60's I spray painted the set black. Of course, no one told me someday the horrid blue-gray would be worth something. Where were you people in the '60's? :) The date stamps on the interiors and the badges show 1955. At first, I thought the date stamps said 1965. However, the badges with the curled S show the drums were made in 1955. Spray paint...I sinned. Well, later on, (before the internet was invented) I decided I didn't like the black spray paint so then I stripped off the black and the blue-gray (sinned again) and I put on latex antiquing to give the set that marbled look (sinned again) and put urethane over the latex (sinned again). The urethane yellowed. Obviously, I have a problem.

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The drum shells are in good shape. I am stripping off the antiquing and getting down to the bare wood. The exterior plies are all maple. I would like to hand these drums on to my descendants. I am sick about what I did but ignorance is bliss until you get a clue. My playing days are over since I am in my middle sixties with health issues.

The last time I got an estimate on a lacquer paint job the estimate was $500. Re-wrap would be around $300-400. The hardware is slightly pitted. The snare rims and lugs were nickel over brass stick-buster. I've never been able to polish the snare hardware to the point the black stuff stopped coming off. The rest of the hardware on the rest of the drums is chrome platting over brass.

Considering the economy is going to further crash and I am on Social Security with limited cash to spend, what is the most economical way of doing a restore? I have been considering putting new veneer over the shells and re-finishing. The veneer is thin enough the heads will still go on the shells.

Thank you in advance for any replies.

Posted on 15 years ago
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Sounds like you have some painting skills, why don't you try your hand at doing the blue grey duco job yourself?

Posted on 15 years ago
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Might I recommend the Gurrella Drum Making DVD? While I found the production as a whole slightly disappointing (bearing edges are summed up as something best left to someone else to cut) there's a lot of good information on finishing shells, new or old. In fact, I'd say the dvd is really more about drum finishing than drum making, but I digress.

Just the other night I was watching it and there's a chapter on doing a sunburst finish that looks to me like you could do a duco finish the same way, if you wanted. I'm pretty confident I could do it, and the only job I've ever been fired from was a painting gig, so I'm not exactly gifted in this area.

The video also talks about wrap finishes and veneers. I think there's a lot of info in there you could use. It'd cost a lot less than having a pro do it and you could consider the manual labor penance for past sins? LoLoLoLo

Posted on 15 years ago
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Hodee, the good news is with all your creative endevors you only got to one drum set:)

I just did my first wrap job and it came out great, If your on a budget watch ebay or here for lo cost drum wrap material. Sparkles tend to be a bit thicker, so modern heads may not fit, I'd stick with solids or pearl. Precesion is one of the best, check their site for whats out there, Good Luck

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Posted on 15 years ago
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If you can get them sanded down really, really well to the maple, and then sand them really smooth, you can use clear Watco oil and rub in a few coats with 0000 steel wool and you will have a nice low cost and attractive finish.

Posted on 15 years ago
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Thank all of you for the comments.

Posted on 15 years ago
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From atomicmorganic

If you can get them sanded down really, really well to the maple, and then sand them really smooth, you can use clear Watco oil and rub in a few coats with 0000 steel wool and you will have a nice low cost and attractive finish.

[COLOR="Purple"]A wrap job is gonna cost at least $150-200 in materials alone. And for someone who has never done it before...eh, I wouldn't go that way. AND...if they were painted factory, their diameters are a tad larger than wrapped factory shells would have been....so, if you wrap, (or veneer, for that matter) you will have head-fit problems.

I like Atomic's idea best.. if they were mahogany shells, or if you can get off all of the old paint and crud from the exterior surface of the wood and the grain and seams look really good...instead of Watco, I'd say use tung oil.

As he said, they gotta get sanded down to about 220gr.

If you went Tung oil... you would do 7 coats, hand-applied with a cloth; with fine wet-sanding or 0000 steel wooling in between the 3rd and 4th coat, and in between the 6th and 7th coat. Allow min 24 hrs. between coats.

But again, only if the naked shells don't show inconsistencies which would detract from the aesthetics...

Total material cost about, what ?...$30 ?

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Posted on 15 years ago
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These drums would not be a good candidate for wrapping. The duco drums usually had the "M" or "W" shells which were not undersized to accommodate wraps, so if you do wrap them you may have trouble fitting heads.

Posted on 15 years ago
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IMO, a new duco paint jod would put the kit in about as good a position as it could be as it was ORIGINALLY a duco finsh. There are those who could do it for you, or you could try your hand at it yourself. Best thing is, it's wood. If it sucks you can remove it (though it's a hassle) and start again.

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