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Lets just call it we agree to disagree and call it a draw. Yes Sir

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Posted on 15 years ago
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From el_37

Hate to burst your bubble but quite a few of the technologies that you mention were not developed in the USA- the technology behind the compact disc was first developed by Sony in Japan, and was further refined by a joint venture between Philips in the Netherlands, and Sony on Japan.Magnetic tape recording was developed in Nazi Germany, and the first practical use for magnetic tape recording was so everyone could hear Hitler's speeches. Tape recording did not come to the USA until after WWII.The first practical Television broadcasts in the 1920's were also in Germany, and serious development in the USA did not appear until the 1930's.Radar was jointly developed by most Western Nations and the Soviet Union, first practical system was actually developed by the French and installed in 1935.EFI- first used by Alfa Romeo in 1940 in Italy- but Bendix was the first commerically available system in 1957- but was a monumental flop. Bosch was the first company to market a reliable EFI system in 1967, and the first GM EFI system in 1977 was basically a copy of the Bosch system.I understand (and share) your pride in USA made products and inventions- but is wrong to claim that we are all about invention and that Japan just copies. The USA has a LONG history of taking technology that was invented elsewhere and refining it, as well as most other industrial nations- part of being a world power is realizing when something is good regardless of its origin and making it better.However we also have a long history of technological turds- there are just as many recalls with our automobiles (how about that long run of Fords in the 1990's that just liked to go on fire), or our dismal attempts at making small diesel engines (anyone remember the 350 Oldsmobile Diesel of the 80's?), or the truly horrible Cadillac 8/6/4 of the 80's as well.

True . Without those Nazi rocket scientists we may have never made it to the moon ! Mind Blowi

1963 Gretsch Progressive Jazz Champagne Sparkle
1967 Ludwig Super Classic Oyster Blue Pearl
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Posted on 15 years ago
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From tomswift

You should be able to sell it for more than what you paid here in US.

Tom . Beautiful set . Finish looks very similar to Sonor's Black Diamond finish which was used on HiLite drums . I have a couple of snare drums . I'll attack a pic .

I did a side by side comparison test yesterday with this 12x9 Gretsch Classic and my old round badge 12x8 . Despite the GC having Evans heads ( Remos on RB ) , they sounded virtually identical . Gretsch has defintely got a winner with this series . They sound more like the old Gretsch than the USA Customs ! But why ? Help2

1963 Gretsch Progressive Jazz Champagne Sparkle
1967 Ludwig Super Classic Oyster Blue Pearl
Yamaha Birch Custom Absolute Burgundy Spkl. bop
etc...
Posted on 15 years ago
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Here is a pic of a Sonor Hilite snare in black diamond .

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Posted on 15 years ago
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Differnt drum same finish . There are multi-coloured sparkles but hard to see in this photo . Depends how light hits the finish . Your finish seems to be more sparkly , though .

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1963 Gretsch Progressive Jazz Champagne Sparkle
1967 Ludwig Super Classic Oyster Blue Pearl
Yamaha Birch Custom Absolute Burgundy Spkl. bop
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Posted on 15 years ago
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From jazzbo

Tom . Beautiful set . Finish looks very similar to Sonor's Black Diamond finish which was used on HiLite drums . I have a couple of snare drums . I'll attack a pic . I did a side by side comparison test yesterday with this 12x9 Gretsch Classic and my old round badge 12x8 . Despite the GC having Evans heads ( Remos on RB ) , they sounded virtually identical . Gretsch has defintely got a winner with this series . They sound more like the old Gretsch than the USA Customs ! But why ? Help2

I've noticed that, too. Here's a shot of my '63 RBs

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Posted on 15 years ago
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From el_37

Radar was jointly developed by most Western Nations and the Soviet Union, first practical system was actually developed by the French and installed in 1935

I was under the impression that a Scotsman invented Radar and it was first implemented by the British in WW2.

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Posted on 15 years ago
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From tomswift

I was under the impression that a Scotsman invented Radar and it was first implemented by the British in WW2.

Actually, no. RADAR was a joint effort (though not all knew they were contributing) developed by many many different people in many different countries. Even Tesla had a hand in this. It's not so cut and dry as one man/one invention. Sorry.

Posted on 15 years ago
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Actually Michael, Tesla is better credited with writing such rockin hits as 'comin at you live', 'love song', and 'heaven's trail (no way out)'!

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Posted on 15 years ago
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From tomswift

I've noticed that, too. Here's a shot of my '63 RBs

Yowza ! Fab !

My 1962s : 20/14/12/5.5x14

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Posted on 15 years ago
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