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Rogers Cleveland vs Dayton?

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Maybe the mahogany poplar mahogany is from the Roger's/Yamaha days..?

It's the only thing I can think of...no rerings, so you could count the ply..?

Any thoughts..?

Also if you can take the hoop,skin off...mahogany is darker then poplar..

Bop iT / Til U Drop iT.

ROGER's
1964 Cleveland,.18/14/12 in WMP
1966 Cleveland, 20/14/12 O'natural.
Fullerton,...20/16/13/12 Silver Glass

WFL
1957 B/R Super Classics In WMP

Snares..
Wood & COB Powertones,
Wood & COB Dynasonics,
57 Jazz Festival

Zildjian avedis cymbals.
40s/60s era.
Posted on 11 years ago
#11
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Is it possible to have a new urban legend concerning Rogers?

Rogers Drums Big R era 1975-1984 Dating Guide.
http://www.vintagedrumforum.com/showthread.php?t=24048
Posted on 11 years ago
#12
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The early shells were Jasper shells and they are some of the very best sounding shells Rogers ever made and yes they had Mahogany not a urban myth just the facts...[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v147/Magwa/Rogersshellpicture_zps7181c74b.jpg[/IMG]

Posted on 11 years ago
#13
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MikeT-thanks for posting this pic-really interesting stuff for us Rogers guys.

Wayne

1967 Rogers Cleveland Champagne Sparkle
20,16,13,13.
1967/68 Rogers Dayton Champagne Sparkle
20,16,13,13.
1966 Rogers cob 7 Line Dynasonic Snare.
1967 Rogers "Humberto Morales" Timbales.
1980 Ludwig B/O badge 14x 6.5 Black Beauty Snare.
1980 Ludwig B/O badge Red Cortex
22,22,18,16,15,14,13.
1988 Sonor "Horst Link" HLD 590 14x8 Bronze Snare
Posted on 10 years ago
#14
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As Dan C pointed out, all the Oho drums were made in the same Covington warehouse. The office changed towns, but the warehouse didn't change until the move to Fullerton.

IMHO - The biggest difference between the Cleveland and the Dayton shells of the same ply is the name on the paper badge. The rest is emotionally connection. Bet a blind sound test would show most preferences were with the paper tag.

Posted on 10 years ago
#15
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That catalog info (from The Rogers Book?) doesn't say anything about a mahogany layup. It states that they are standing on a 'mahogany parade drum shell', a parade drum which was very common at the time: a maple/poplar mix with an outer veneer ply of mahogany. I have a shell like that in my workshop right now. The shell is the same as any other Jasper shell, but the mahogany finish consists of that thin veneer. The 1960 catalog page shows the 'Newport' parade drums all in mahogany finish; the only other standard finish avalable on the Newports was white lacquer, which was applied over the mahogany veneer (Pearl was available as an extra-cost special order). The catalog text calls them 'mahogany shells' but that is a reference to the finish, and also a bit of deceptive hyperbole to tout the Newport drums even though they were a lower-level line.

This is also the construction of the mahogany finish Keller shells.

The text could have been more clear, it was likely written by Rob Cook after seeing the drums referred to as 'mahogany' in the catalog and he referred to the drum that way in the caption.

I can almost guarantee you there are no Rogers shells with a layup consisting primarily of mahogany. I have cut up a number of trashed mahogany shells: the mahogany is in the veneer.

Look at it this way: if that shell had been covered in Red Onyx, and it was referred to in the photo as 'they are standing on a Red Onyx shell', we wouldn't think the shell was constructed of Red Onyx, would we? A little slip of the grammatical tongue, easily misunderstood.

Posted on 10 years ago
#16
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I find it ironic that rogers had a relationship w yamaha considering that yamaha made some of the best drums in the 80s and are top notch next to rogers-camco-gretsch//

Posted on 10 years ago
#17
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Regardless of the plies, don't any of you guys try standing on your Rogers shells! They photo-shopped back then too. Laughing H

Posted on 10 years ago
#18
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now that is funny photoshop 1956.... I do not know the facts just thought that pic was interesting I know the early rogers shells (bread and butter ) with round bearing edges were awesome drums.... as were the first beavertails which I have owned many....

Posted on 10 years ago
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From Dan Boucher

Regardless of the plies, don't any of you guys try standing on your Rogers shells! They photo-shopped back then too. Laughing H

Dan I was just about to try that to one of the Jasper shells I have here. I took off the BnB lugs though. I thought they might crack. Laughing H

Glenn.

Not a guru just havin fun with some old dusty drums.
Posted on 10 years ago
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