I'd look....but I wouldn't want to tell......Hurting

This is a pic of him last night...if the K are, well you know, the smile won't be there...

Crossing my fingers for ya.....

All good...pheewww.

Thats good to hear. I only use my own cymbals when its just me playing them....they are on the thin side....most guys don't even know how to PROPERLY play a cymbal...most just bash away....this is why you see so many broken and cracked ones for sale on ebay.....which are totally useless. they claim they can be repaired, but....they never sound the same once they start breaking....anyway, I never let anyone use them unless I know how they play ahead of time....

Interesting. If the drums are not what the player likes, I think the drummer should be able to tune the drums. I just had this problem come up a week ago. We are all sharing a kit, the previous drummer had the drums tuned real high..jazz high. I was going to go with it, but, the soundman was right there, so, I asked him if I could tune the drums to my style. He said go for it and told me he liked my tuning better. Not a big deal.

Some drummers need "their bass pedal" (I'm not in this group), regardless of what is on the kit. Drummers come in different shapes and sizes, things will be moved.

It's cool your son is out playing at such a early age..in no time he will be going with the flow. Until he's playing Sports Arenas, it takes too much energy to get fired up on the small stuff.

I disagree with the tuning issue. If it is your kit being used, would you want someone messing with the tuning you've been searching for that you finally found? I don't and since its my kit, its my rule. As far as the drummer wanting their own pedal, the only requests I've had have been from heavy rock guys to change out the pedal for their double pedal. The answer has always been no. Reason? Its a small jazz kit used for a small room thats a predominantly acoustic blues open mic nite. Double bass just doesn't fit with this kind of playing and it gets too loud. Volume is an issue at the venue as its held on a sunday night. Besides, where can you fit "dugga dugga dugga dugga" into a shuffle? (thats mainly all these guys can play on their 'cool' double pedals anyways. If it was a tasteful bass shuffle done with it sure, but I have yet to hear one at this particular gig, so the double pedal has been banned. again, my kit, my rules.)

Its your kit being used,, you have the right to set what can and can't be done to the kit. Adjust it any way you need to is ok with me. Retune it or swap out the pedal for a double pedal....your done. Also bashing away, overpowering the rest of the musicians....your also done. Its not a solo showcase its a jam. BTW, the guitar player has a few rules too.....use the house amps provided, small fenders, and NO PEDALS. Small amp/guitar thats it. If you cant play without the crap, obviously you really can't play is his motto. As I stated before, volume is an issue at the venue, so thats why these rules are in place. Some of these guys used to try bringing a 100watt marshall! Its a small room! what do you need one of those for?? "its the only way I can get my tone dude!" DOH

It's an open mic man, just go up there an do your two or three songs and move on! Nothing irritates me more than some dudes going up there, moving s#%t around for ten minutes and then play a couple really bad covers.

Sorry if I offended anyone!

It sounds like we are in different music scenes. Which is a good thing. When it's my turn to use my kit for the jam night/show for everyone to use, I set up my Ludwigs, pinstripe heads (they take a beating quite well) and I tell the drummers they can move anything they want and tune the drums to their liking. I want everyone to be comfortable..it's music, it should be a positive environment. Usually the tuning isn't an issue, but, in the few times that is has been, I was able to tune things pretty quick. Now, in the situations I'm in, the drummers bring their own cymbals/snare/ and bass drum pedals. Also, usually we all know each other, so, we're pretty friendly. The drummers are on a pro level, so, everyone is pretty respectful.

If I was playing at your band jam, I bet I would like the smaller kit/tunings, but, if I didn't, I would ask if I can tune the drums to my liking. You would say "no, or you are out of here", and I would be cool. I would tell my band that the drums do not sound so hot, so, I'm just keeping it kick and snare and get through the set. My band has done a few shows where it's been backlined with not the greatest of gear ,so, it's something we have delt with.

You are right "it's your set and it's your rules". Rules are set up for a reason, and I guess someone at your jam sessions really went over the line.

No offense taken. This is where we are coming from at our jam.

Not many of the "musicians" that show up to this particular jam are pros...most are guys who used to play and haven't in years, or are the opposite....never played anything before in their life. Rarely do we get a complete band up to play. Thats NOT the idea of a jam btw....if you want to hear a band, go to their show. The idea behind a jam is to go out and play with guys you haven't played with before.....maybe something new will come out of it....most of all its about having fun playing together. If a guy is a lefty, then yes the kit should be adjusted to his needs, otherwise time and ettiquite state that you chould adjust as little as needed....get the show on the road so to speak. If you want to change out the snare, ask....I usually have no problems with that, unless its a slotted colliseum or something LOL!

And yes, people have stepped over the line in the past.......you can ask to retune them, but the answer will always be the same with me. A resounding no, but I will be nice about it. I do know most of the drummers that play my kit at this jam, but you still have to lay down the law at times...its unfortunate, but this is the way of the jam when you are dealing with non-pros....