this one sounds really really good. 50's 18"
What's this one worth?
BosLover
don't know the weight. 1500 grams'ish. fairly light and moderately bendable.
50's small stamp. 1 3/16th's inches tall.
BosLover
Ill post a pic here in a second.
Also wondering, how doeas a stamp change any of the info ive already stated?
I gotta say...
The weight is Very important,....as well a clear pic of the stamp..
also a clear pic of the cymbal / showing where the stamp is located and over all size of the stamp / how far in from the edge is also needed and a pic of the lathing of the cym..
Is it a ride or crash or combo..
Pic showing the bell would help..** Any faded ink logo..? or Signature..?
When I have a cym in my hands / I can usually determine this in a Cpl mins...
When its thru pics and words ...it takes more time and a lot of questions need to be answered to get the right info...
meaning the value starts at $75 for that cymbal and goes up to $200
ROGER's
1964 Cleveland,.18/14/12 in WMP
1966 Cleveland, 20/14/12 O'natural.
Fullerton,...20/16/13/12 Silver Glass
WFL
1957 B/R Super Classics In WMP
Snares..
Wood & COB Powertones,
Wood & COB Dynasonics,
57 Jazz Festival
Zildjian avedis cymbals.
40s/60s era.
Here's the stamp. i'll get a measuring tape out for the rest. brb
The stamp starts at 1 3/4 inches in from the edge
stamp is located at 12 o'clock in overhead picture of top of cymbal
i don't see any ink on it, but it's got a lot of club dirt on it.
gonna go run some errands.
i'll take it by the post office to weigh.
Also wondering, how does a stamp change any of the info ive already stated?
That's actually an interesting question to me (remembering I'm a statistician and scientist and what interests me doesn't always interest others). Some of the info you have stated would still stand independent of the stamp. For example:
[INDENT]18" diameter
1500g weight (more or less)
1 3/16" tall stamp
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This one:
[INDENT]sounds really good[/INDENT]
isn't measured on a scale which anybody can agree on. :D
When presented with partial information about a cymbal (particularly in the age of the internet with "remote buying") stamp eras are believed to either:
[INDENT]indicate enough of the sonic properties to help fill in the picture
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or
[INDENT]indicate more about what the expected price range should be (eg: Trans stamps go for more than 1970s cymbals other things being equal)
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Weight is similarly a proxy for how a cymbal might sound. For example I would think differently about your cymbal if you said it was 1200g vs 1500g vs 1800g. But "exact" weight isn't such a big deal to me. So I'm not concerned if the "exact" weight is 1500g or 1450g or 1550g. By 1650g I'm thinking there is a difference. This is entirely my mind at work until I hear a sound file. A decent sound file trumps beliefs about sonic properties from weight.
The weight is a factor in predicting price (along with the stamp era). Thin is in (another way of saying: thinner A Zildjian cymbals tend to have a higher expected price other things being equal).
You'll have to check with Mark (Boslover) about why he insists on a picture, but I suspect he doesn't know you therefore doesn't trust you to be able to pick the era of a stamp properly. Whereas I know you read my detailed post on this which has since been erased by the database fallback. ;)
I did take the precaution of backing it up and it will come back online at my own web site pretty soon. I'm still working on a few editorial improvements.
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