Hi,My brother just got a second-hand drum kit which included a somewhat vintage-looking Zildjian flat ride which seems quite heavy. I'm kind of curious if its just another ride or if it's a little more unique. How much could it be worth? When could it have been made? Any other remarks?Information:- Flat ride (no bell)- Weight: 7 lbs 15 oz (3600g)- Diameter 56,6 cm (22'')- No ink logo, also no traces of one whatsoever- Zildjian stamp (see attachment). Looking at stamp timelines, I'd guess it's from the 1960s. Is that possible?Any info is appreciated.

Just an FYI - Drumaholic is considered the most knowledgeable cymbal guy on this forum and you can trust his comment to be accurate. As you can see (or not see considering the mystery offers accepted) the completed listings on Ebay indicate that the value is not more than normal ride cymbals. One thing for sure - anyone looking for one of these - would be getting a beauty!

Thanks for the information, I already noticed Drumaholic is kind of a Zildjian expert from other topics. :)I'm actually not sure what makes the difference in value for these cymbals (in general). Is a 60's cymbal worth more than one from the 70's ? Does value increase as weight increases? I ask because you name ebay, but I can't find one with this size and weight from the 60's.It is indeed a beauty, but maybe not as suitable for my brother as he doesn't play any jazz. I'm just curious how things relate to eachother.

Generally older cymbals are more valuable. But that doesn't become a big factor unless you get all the way back to the 50's. And late '40's to early 50's is the magical era which seems to bring the biggest bucks. Earlier cymbals than that are much harder to come by, but in large sizes they are even more valued. But the trademark is by no means a guarantee that the cymbal will be great sounding. There were just as many dogs amongst the trans stamps as with the old K's, but not everybody knows that. Consequently I think they put too much emphasis on the trademark with Avedis trans stamps. So without a sound clip you take your chances.

The one is mid to later 1960's. It's not particularly unique or valuable. The flat ride is a jazz only type of cymbal and works well in its genre but by its design is specialized for this purpose. Because of this it lacks versatility as compared with other cymbal types. It's a niche cymbal.And let's give Paiste credit for originating this unique design idea and for producing the first cymbals of this type in the first place.This was a considerable achievement; and a first in cymbal history. And in recognition for this they were awarded the coveted "No-Bell" Peace Prize.