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ca 1930's Student Slingerland

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I just purchased my first vintage drum after MUCH research. And I have a ton of questions because I haven't found any information about this drum outside the pictures in the old catalogs.

I wound up with a student model Slingerland "universal" model, which can be seen in the catalogs on vintagedrumguide.com. The description in the catalogs describes the shell as solid mahogany with maple reinforcement rings. From those catalogs, that line of drums seems virtually unchanged from 1928-1941. My understanding is that Slingerland did not use serial numbers during this era. There are some markings inside the shell (pictured), but I'm unsure of their meaning. Are there any more indicators to look for to narrow this down? This isn't the most important thing in the world, it's just purely out of curiosity.

Second: I have a shell, what appears to be original lugs, screws, and rims. Has anyone ever seen a throw off that fits this drum? It's not the classic three point throw off. As you can see in the pictures, there were 4 holes in the shell, which have been (poorly) filled. I have found no information about this throw off and don't anticipate being able to afford one if I did track one down. So, has anyone seen a retrofit plate for this hole pattern so I could drill out the crappy fill job? Or should I just plan on drilling new holes?

I haven't decided on the throw off I want. I'm thinking the Gibraltar Dunnett R7, the Tama Linear Drive, or possibly a Trick; all found here http://www.drumfactorydirect.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=6_104_40 . I think I'm leaning towards the Tama. Any suggestions here?

Next order of business. Someone put a crappy coat of brown paint over the wood shell (and botched up the inside of the shell a little bit in the process). I am assuming that it was left natural originally. I am interested in returning this drum to that state, but this being my first vintage drum, I'm afraid I'm going to mess something up. I assume there are probably some great pointers on removing paint from a shell around the web, but I need to look into that more. Thoughts?

Any help is very much appreciated.

And here are a bunch of pictures.

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Posted on 10 years ago
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Sorry about the huge pictures. Here are a few more.

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Posted on 10 years ago
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Welcome to the forum Jesse!!

Mighty nice drum you have there. First off don't drill any new holes. Not sure what strainer it needs but someone will know.

Don't think it is brown paint. Looks like someone thought it needed a clear coat badge and all. There are test kits to sort what was used. With any luck you can get that off without damaging the original finish. It's a slim chance but a chance.

It's 70+ years old. Wait for the experts to chime in. May take a few days but never get in a rush on the restoration of a drum of this quality.

The markings. 14" 6 lug drum correct? That would explain some. Can't tell if that is a 5 or S and no idea about the second 6.

Creighton

Nothing special here but I like them.
Posted on 10 years ago
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Jesse, as already mentioned do not alter the drum in any way. here look at this scan. http://www.vintagedrumguide.com/images/catalogs/slingerland/1940_slingerland_pg6a_large.jpg

Your drummers not much good is he!? What you need is someone that's as good as me. ! John Henry Bonham !!
Posted on 10 years ago
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From Creighton

Don't think it is brown paint. Looks like someone thought it needed a clear coat badge and all.

It does appear that the grommet (and I assume the badge) were taken off because whoever did it damaged the inside of the shell in the process.

From Creighton

It's 70+ years old. Wait for the experts to chime in. May take a few days but never get in a rush on the restoration of a drum of this quality.

I originally just planned on getting this drum to playing condition, but now that I actually have it, I'm seeing the value of keeping it in as close to original condition as is feasible for me. So, I will be taking my time with this.

From Creighton

The markings. 14" 6 lug drum correct? That would explain some. Can't tell if that is a 5 or S and no idea about the second 6.Creighton

As for the markings, I can't tell any better than you can. The numbers surprisingly are much easier to see in the pictures than I could see in person.

From vintagemore2000

Jesse, as already mentioned do not alter the drum in any way. here look at this scan. http://www.vintagedrumguide.com/images/catalogs/slingerland/1940_slingerland_pg6a_large.jpg

Yeah, I had seen that scan of the original catalog. The same drum can be found in years 1928-1941 catalogs.

Posted on 10 years ago
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Still hoping to get some more feedback on this drum.

After a ton of searching I found out some info about the (missing) throw off. It appears to be a #674 Shur-Grip. I would be interested in a retro-fit plate for this if anyone has ever seen such a thing.

Any feedback is appreciated.

Posted on 10 years ago
#6
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Jess,

That part nuber you listed (#674 Shur-Grip) is the correct one. Also on early "Geisler" drums, both Eugine and Slingerland, I've seen it on both drums.

I don't know of/if anyone is doing a repro of this strainer, If they are I would like to get one also for my Geisler.

Here's page 4 of the 1930 Slingerland catalog showing that drum. Came in Mahogany, so don't take the finish off the drum, it's original.

[IMG]http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj213/diddle001/004_zpsac94eeb5.jpg[/IMG]

Hope this is helpful. Let me know if you find anyone doing a repro of that strainer Jess.

Dave

Posted on 10 years ago
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From diddle001

Jess,That part nuber you listed (#674 Shur-Grip) is the correct one. Also on early "Geisler" drums, both Eugine and Slingerland, I've seen it on both drums.I don't know of/if anyone is doing a repro of this strainer, If they are I would like to get one also for my Geisler.

Thank you for confirming that. I was almost certain that that was the strainer used on this drum. What do you have set up on your drum? Did you redrill? Is it in playing condition?

Posted on 10 years ago
#8
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Jesse,

My drum at the moment doesn't have a strainer on it. The one that WAS on the drum was damaged, broken lever, so that's why I'm looking for one of these myself.

If you find anyone doing repro ones, let me know please.

Dave

P.S.

Jess, what's the main focus of you collection, Slingerland?

Posted on 10 years ago
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From diddle001

Jess, what's the main focus of you collection, Slingerland?

This is my first and only vintage drum. My original intent when purchasing it was to get it to playing condition and use it for orchestral purposes. So, I'd really like to get some kind of strainer on it. As best as I can tell, that will require drilling new holes, which I would really like to avoid.

Posted on 10 years ago
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