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I bought the drums which are after fatal "renovation", no bagdes etc. However they sound fantastic. Set 22, 12, 13, 16. I'm curious about your opinion. I will be very grateful for your response. PHOTOS

Posted on 11 years ago
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From biaxident

I bought the drums which are after fatal "renovation", no bagdes etc. However they sound fantastic. Set 22, 12, 13, 16. I'm curious about your opinion. I will be very grateful for your response. PHOTOS

It seems to me they are a match of different brands - Pearl tom and Star bass, maybe.

The snare is very, very nice - Ludwig with keystone badge.

Jon

Posted on 11 years ago
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That's weird, that the kick has slingy style and shark tooth lugs. I would guess by the re-drilled hole pattern probably had shark tooth originally. I can't ID the shells but the mounts, rims and most of the lugs appear to be slingerland or star made reproductions. Star also made the shark tooth lugs in the late 60's.

Posted on 11 years ago
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I don't believe your mounts on your tom and BD are consistent with vintage MIJ either. They appear to be Yamaha or even Slingerland. Then you have that/those Luddy mounts also.....seems you have a hodgepodge there!

I would replace 8 of your BD lugs to make them all the same. You could sell off the replaced ones - essentially making it free of cost.

I would also recommend wood hoops for the BD. You would be surprised how much of a difference that makes. I go wood all the way now - on all my kits.

Does your Floor Tom have re-rings?

John

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Posted on 11 years ago
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Thanks for all your answers. Check this photos. To be honest the drumset looks like in the first picture - 6 toms, but previous owner told me that "original" is only T3, T4, T5. I don't know so I get you another picture pack. Maybe it helps.

From Jon Petersen

The snare is very, very nice - Ludwig with keystone badge.Jon

snare is great but it was easy to ID: Ludwig Acrolite 1967 :)

From blackrome

I would guess by the re-drilled hole pattern probably had shark tooth originally.

re-drilled holes are for shark lugs - originally holes are for Slingerland lugs - I tried to show it on a photo

From Drummerjohn333

I would replace 8 of your BD lugs to make them all the same. You could sell off the replaced ones - essentially making it free of cost. I would also recommend wood hoops for the BD. You would be surprised how much of a difference that makes. I go wood all the way now - on all my kits. Does your Floor Tom have re-rings?John

for sure I replace lugs in a bass drum :) and I will buy a wood hoops. I don't know what you mean 'Floor Tom have re-rings'? Maybe it is my language problem, sorry. ;)

Posted on 11 years ago
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From biaxident

Thanks for all your answers. Check this photos. To be honest the drumset looks like in the first picture - 6 toms, but previous owner told me that "original" is only T3, T4, T5. I don't know so I get you another picture pack. Maybe it helps.@Jon Petersen: snare is great but it was easy to ID: Ludwig Acrolite 1967 :)@blackrome: re-drilled holes are for shark lugs - I show it on a photo@Drummerjohn333: for sure I replace lugs in a bass drum :) and I will buy a wood hoops. I don't know what you mean 'Floor Tom have re-rings'? Maybe it is my language problem, sorry. ;)

Re-rings are wooden support rings/strips that goes around the interior of the drum shells often seen in pairs or threes at times.

Currently my first set ever 1983 Pearl Export original owner. 2008 Grestch Catalina Maple, and a 1970 Star kit. Many snares including a big R Dynasonic.
Previous Rogers Holiday 12, 16, 20 and powertone snare.
Premier apk and Premier Cabria kits.
Posted on 11 years ago
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From Puremusic

Re-rings are wooden support rings/strips that goes around the interior of the drum shells often seen in pairs or threes at times.

T5 - no re-rings

T6 - with re-rings and that tom is very very light

Posted on 11 years ago
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I have seen examples of the Japanese copying just about everything the U.S. and European makers did,and it does look like you have a hodgepodge there,but the Kick looks Euro to me,that vertical reinforcement definitely looks European,and the rims look Euro to me also,with that inward flat flange,and tom 2 looks like the inner ply is horizontal rather the the vertical grain I see on the other drums.I don't really remember any MIJ kits with slotted t rods,I wonder if the threading on the rods and inserts is metric or standard. My gut feeling is the kit is Euro.

Posted on 11 years ago
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Bd spurs & mounts are incomplete Slingerland with replacement lock screws, tom mounts look like retro fitted Set o Matic too, also with replacement screws..

A real mixed bag..

Cheers

'77 Slingerland 51N,Super Rock 24,18,14,13.. COW 8,10 Concert toms
'69 Slingerland Hollywood Ace
'75 Rogers Dynasonic 6.5 x 14, 10 lug COB
'77-78 Slingerland 6.5 x 14, 10 lug COB
'78-79 Slingerland 5 1/4 x14 8 lug COB
'79 Biman 5 1/4, Acrolite
'82 Slingerland 5 1/4 x 14. Festival COS
'84 Tama MasterCraft Superstar 6.5 x 14, 10 lug Rosewood
'98 Slingerland (Music YO) 6" 10 Lug Maple.. NOS
Zildjian, Sabian , UFIP & Paiste mix.
Posted on 11 years ago
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What do you think looking at this photos - is there some connection? BD related with some toms? Which?

Posted on 11 years ago
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