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1957 Ludwig Question P85

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I've had a '57 Ludwig that I bought w/ 4 zildjian cymbals for 1200.00 about 12 years ago. I've had someone I trust look at it and they told me they were definately 57's but carefully recovered in Oyster Black. Some of the other parts like the b.d. spurs and some rims might have been changed as well. The snare has a P85. When did the P 85 come into existence and what would be the correct strainer? Also is there a source where I can actually view the correct parts for this kit? I'd like to get it as close as possible to the original.

thanks,

Mike

Posted on 15 years ago
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The P-85 strainer came out in 1970-1971 timeframe. The predecessor was the P-83 which is very similar to the P-85. Check the snare drum pages and the catalog scans on the main website for more details of what the correct hardware would look like. Cool1

Posted on 15 years ago
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There was no Ludwig in 1957...the badges from 1957 would say WFL.

You should post some photos and we can see what you've got.

Posted on 15 years ago
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From Rich K.

There was no Ludwig in 1957...the badges from 1957 would say WFL.You should post some photos and we can see what you've got.

Yeah they all have keystone badges that say WFL....I still call 'em Ludwigs. I"ll get some pics next time I gig on them and hopefully ya'll will put yer 2 cents in....always appreciate the feedback.

Posted on 15 years ago
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Great sounding drums. Mahogany interiors like the same era Slingerlands. My favorite shells.

I had a WFL set that someone rented from me for a recording session.

The studio liked it so much they rented then for the next few weekends.

Posted on 15 years ago
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[QUOTE=Rich K.;27041]Great sounding drums. Mahogany interiors like the same era Slingerlands. My favorite shells.

I had a WFL set that someone rented from me for a recording session.

The studio liked it so much they rented then for the next few weekend

After tweaking the kick, many players have commented that it's the best sounding kick they've ever heard....of course my mentor told me that it wouldn't cut when away from the drum so would need to be mic'd...he's usually right about e'thing. I never liked the snare...sounds dead.... I used it on the geriatric crowd last weekend and it was the perfect volume for the accordian,sax trio. I've been thinking of having Mike Abrusizi from Quincy MA do the edges....if I can only sell a few more items so I can afford it.

Posted on 15 years ago
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From mruggelo

[QUOTE=Rich K.;27041]Great sounding drums. Mahogany interiors like the same era Slingerlands. My favorite shells.I had a WFL set that someone rented from me for a recording session.The studio liked it so much they rented then for the next few weekendAfter tweaking the kick, many players have commented that it's the best sounding kick they've ever heard....of course my mentor told me that it wouldn't cut when away from the drum so would need to be mic'd...he's usually right about e'thing. I never liked the snare...sounds dead.... I used it on the geriatric crowd last weekend and it was the perfect volume for the accordian,sax trio. I've been thinking of having Mike Abrusizi from Quincy MA do the edges....if I can only sell a few more items so I can afford it.

Don't redo the edges...it will ruin the snare's value. If you want a louder drum, get an acrolite for $120...any era. Cheap, great sounding and still a Ludwig...

Posted on 15 years ago
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From Rich K.

[quote=mruggelo;27072]Don't redo the edges...it will ruin the snare's value. If you want a louder drum, get an acrolite for $120...any era. Cheap, great sounding and still a Ludwig...

I've heard that it would ruin the edges but Mike said he could do it so that one could never tell. If you're not familiar w/ him, his work is amazing.

Posted on 15 years ago
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If he has to shorten the depth in order to even the edges, then it will be easy to tell. Most of the vintage people who would find value in drums like that would almost always prefer them to be in original condition.

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Posted on 15 years ago
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