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Hi ya'll - found a set of Hoshino drums local. Five piece, looks to be in decent shape (appears to be missing tension rods on resonant side of bass drum. All else is there. Black wrap in good shape (nothing exciting, don't really dig black drums). Bass drum spurs don't appear to be there.

Firstly, they're asking 100 bux. Is this a good price?

Secondly, if I acquired said drums, I would want to rewrap. I'm not thinking this kit has enough value to keep it "original" but I've been wrong before.

Thirdly, i've asked the seller for diameters (looks to my eyes to be a 22" bass drums but can't tell from pics to be sure). Does anyone know the configuration Hoshino made? I'd like a 20" and would likely jump if this was.

Fourthly, how easy to acquire and how universal are the tension rods and spurs for these kits?

Thanks for any info!

late 60s Ludwig Standard kit (blue strata)
late 60s Star kit (red satin)
Tama Rockstar Custom
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Posted on 11 years ago
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Ugh, after posting I thought that maybe I'd better search "HOSHINO" on this site and there appears to be some info. Sorry about that. Some questions remain, but from what I gather, at least in some folks experience, the shells are sub par, or sub sub par.

Bring on the opinions if you have any.

late 60s Ludwig Standard kit (blue strata)
late 60s Star kit (red satin)
Tama Rockstar Custom
a few snares ...
Posted on 11 years ago
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As far as i´ve been told, Hoshino Drums were Beginnerset and the shells were not very good, also the hardware of the shells is poor. Never had one myself, but thats what that Vintage Gurus told me!

Depends for what you need it, as a starterset for students for a 100 bucks i think it´s ok!

regards

Posted on 11 years ago
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Thanks ChristianB,

Well, i've been looking for a decent smaller kit that I could use. Project kit, but if the hardware and shells are lower quality then I will walk away from this thought.

My first kit had a 20" bass drum (stencil kit). My 3rd kit was a Ludwig Club Date (champagne sparkle) with a 20" bass drum. I feel i'm a 20" bass drum sort of guy and am looking for fulfill this want eventually. Nothing wrong with my Tama Rockstar Custom kit, in fact I love it and the 22" bass drum is gorgeous, but ... ya know how these things are.

-Doug

late 60s Ludwig Standard kit (blue strata)
late 60s Star kit (red satin)
Tama Rockstar Custom
a few snares ...
Posted on 11 years ago
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You´re welcome!

Fact is, that every Drummer has his own thoughts about all the things in the drum world...thats the way it is buddy;-)

When you want a decent MIJ try and go for a Star...they are normaly very cool sets and exellent for projects as well;.-)

Posted on 11 years ago
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Interestingly enough, just found out that that set was sold. Makes the decision even easier.

I have never seen a Star set around my locale but will keep my eyes open.

late 60s Ludwig Standard kit (blue strata)
late 60s Star kit (red satin)
Tama Rockstar Custom
a few snares ...
Posted on 11 years ago
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Well, thanks Christian for a " + " on Star drums. Some other kits of Pearl may also be satisfying.

To start with, a MIJ kit from the 60's to 70's may be a good choice generally (if it's in good condition).

@shortyedwards: you may have a look at my website for a first touch with Star drums (and it's stncil brands). Enjoy!

Ralf

Vintage STAR (= Pre-Tama) website: www.star-drums.de
Posted on 11 years ago
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No Problem Ralf! Star became TAMA so there you can see...they are good Drums:-)

Here some pic of my Starset, just to give you an idea:-) Cool1

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Posted on 11 years ago
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Golly! That Star wrap is exquisite!

late 60s Ludwig Standard kit (blue strata)
late 60s Star kit (red satin)
Tama Rockstar Custom
a few snares ...
Posted on 11 years ago
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As much as Ralf loves Stars, I think he will agree with me when I say that there are drawbacks to Stars:

Quite a lot of the lugs are very brittle by now, so utmost care has be taken when removing/refitting them.

The shells are generally nice, though.

As regards Hoshinos - the lugs are solid as the best available. On the other hand, the shells are not especially good, being thick luan shells. They are usually round, but the edges are often not so well machined - something that is relatively easily remedied by sanding. If you have a router-table it is even easier. They will make a nice, soft and warm sound - not totally unlike and old Ludwig - but with a lot less volume.

And some Hoshino came in nice Pearls.

But Hoshinos were very cheap drums when new, and I would only spend the cheapest taiwanese wraps on them. And only if they were otherwise complete and very, very cheap.

Mind you, good heads are not cheap either, and will cost the same on a better kit. If you would like an old kit with the style that comes with them - I would suggest you find a cheap Premier kit if you are in the UK or a cheap Slingerland/Ludwig if you are in the US.

Any money spent on those will be easier to recoup in a later sale, should you want to do that - and they will sound a lot better.....

Cheap japanese drums are the best deal if found in complete form, needing only cleaning and handywork like edges and so on.

I think....

Regards

Jon

Posted on 11 years ago
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