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mid 60's Sonor teardrop restoration

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Hi all,

This is going to be a fairly major restoration project. From what I can tell by looking around at catalogs, it's a mid 60's era set. The 2 pieces I used to identify this are that it has the teardrop lugs and the badges say "made in western germany." The bass is 20" with 2 13" rack toms and a 16" floor tom. Given the condition of the drums and my lack of $$, I'm more interested in making this kit playable, than completing a perfectly authentic restoration.

I have some questions about these:

1. From the catalogs, the only models I see are some variation of K-1XX There are no re-enforcement rings. Were all the drums from this era made with beech? Is this probably a 6-ply, or what were the different shell compositions? Were some models better than others?

2. Anyone know the proper bearing edge for this era of Sonor?

2. Did these kits ever come in a natural wood finish? From what I can see in the catalogs, they only came wrapped. (this one is natural) Any good sources for finding new wraps in authenic Sonor patterns? I'd be particularly intersted in the "ruby tangle super pearl", "silver grey super pearl", "red marble", "blue ripple", "glacier white super pearl."

2. It is missing the front BD hoop, claws and t-rods. Is there any place I could try to find at least the claws in a similar style besides eBay? I've seen some Sonor Force claws that look very similar... would these, or any other be an acceptable replacement?

3. Someone has swapped the tom mounts on both the BD and the rack toms for Roger Swiv-o-matic mounts. God knows why... I don't particularly want to mount the toms on the bass drum anyway. Is there any way to cover/fill these extra holes? It seems like the original teardrop mounting brackets are pretty unique and would be pretty hard to find. Does anyone know if the

3. Does anyone know the diameter of the original tom arms for these?

4. The rubber balls on the Floor tom arms are missing. Any ideas on replacements if I can't find the originals? Even as a temp fix?

I may have more questions as I dive further into this new adventure. Thanks for your help!

Posted on 15 years ago
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Here's some answers as far as I can give them.

1) Yes, you could get 6 ply without re-rings near the end of the teardrop era. All teardrop drums are beech shells. This would be a late 60's era drum (post 1966). This was also the time that they had the "Made in Western Germany" drums.

2) The proper bearing edge is round-over for this era drum.

3) The kits did not come with a natural wood finish but they were available later on with veneer, rosewood is one example. Most kits were ordered in wrap and many kits over the years have had the wrap removed. The beech underneath usually looks pretty good so you can stain/finish is with a nice result.

4) Claws/t-rod. Depends what Force series you are referring to. They may be an acceptable match. You can get used parts on www.stdrums.de Gerd Stegner specializes in old Sonor hardware so take a look. Otherwise, you can keep an eye out on the Bay.

5) Sorry about the tom mount. I think virgin kick would be nice. There is a separate thread here on hole filling which is great...

http://www.vintagedrumforum.com/showthread.php?t=6341

6) Tom arm diameter....not sure....sorry.

7) Rubber balls on feet were a common item to go missing. I have seen some re-pro feet somewhere, but I can't remember where. I'll see if I can find out.

Take a look inside the shells, there should be a 3 digit stamped number which indicates date of drum manufacture. It may be faded so take a careful look and you should find it. It may be different on each drum.

Posted on 15 years ago
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I would go to the "Sonor Museum" forum for dating. The stamp in the drums is kinda cryptic. The BD tom mount, if you can find one, is a good one. The only wood finish I have seen is rosewood and only 1970 and later.

These are great drums and I have seen some nice ones with the natural beech after stripping. See mine in the drum image gallery.(1970 Sonors) Good luck, they will be worth the effort.

Posted on 15 years ago
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atomic,

Thanks.. I've been using Sonormuseum to the fullest extent possible. Thanks!

Could you measure your tom arm diameter for me? I'm trying to figure out if there's anything I can sub to mount the tom until I can find an original arm. I'd really appreciate it!

I don't suppose you have any spare parts layin around do you?

Posted on 15 years ago
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No re-rings = 6-ply beech. This was the only wood shell offered. before that was crazy thin 3-ply beech with rings. I like the 6-ply better. The 3 ply are so fragile and the shells easily distort under load.

The ones I've had had a single 45 with maybe a 1mm countercut. Changes came fast in those times for Sonor though, so i don't doubt there are roundovers out there too.

Early 70s sharktooth drums came in rosewood veneer, but were wrapped otherwise. They are however quite handsome under the wraps. the beech is blonde and maybe a bit bland too, but it has a pleasant grain and they used good wood. http://www.canalplasticscenter.com/index2.shtml has some pretty convincing versions of the satin flame finishes (get the opaque backing) at prices well below the wrap sellers. You could do a 5-pc inthis stuff for under $100. Drum Supply house is a good bit more, but they also have some pretty good approximations available, and for bigger bucks they can do a custom wrap in any of a billion shades. Way cool.

Other than real Sonor parts, the late 60s/early 70s Star/Tama claws and t-rods are a close visual copy. The threads are probably different, but that's no biggie, just swap out the lug nuts.It is missing the front BD hoop, claws and t-rods.

I fill holes with fiberglass resin. It's easier and cleaner than dowels and if you want to, it drills out easily. (It's also great for re-sizing hogged-out holes.) Fill the holes and re-wrap. And no the originals aren't hard to find, but it's all ebay.

Tom arms are roughly 3/4".

Go for modern iso-feet like the Pearls. They open the bottom end up like magic. Incredibly effective like widget. Or get the vintage style, again, ebay.

Posted on 15 years ago
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That sonor set you have are great sounding drums..I have 2 sets myself one is a 3 ply with rings 20" bass--toms are 13" and 16" with a C.O.B shell snare these are great for playing jazz..My other is set 22" bass drum toms are 12" --13" 16" 6 ply beech wood shells no-rings great for good old r and r...By the way i have alot of vintage sonor 60s parts--tom mounts brackets for bass and tom---ete P.M. me if you like thanks mike

Posted on 15 years ago
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From atomicmorganic

I would go to the "Sonor Museum" forum for dating. The stamp in the drums is kinda cryptic. The BD tom mount, if you can find one, is a good one. The only wood finish I have seen is rosewood and only 1970 and later.These are great drums and I have seen some nice ones with the natural beech after stripping. See mine in the drum image gallery.(1970 Sonors) Good luck, they will be worth the effort.

Sonor dating is not cryptic but very well documented. You need to identify/know the model which leads to the decade of manufacture and, yes, Sonormuseum has a nice page to identify your kit....and thus the decade.

From there it is easy. There is a 3 digit code stamped inside the shell sometimes accompanied by a quality inspector initials or signature. The first digit of the code is the year and the second two are the month of manufacture. Therefore, if you had a teardrop set with 506 as the code, it would be manufactured in June of 1965. Quite simple really.

Posted on 15 years ago
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Simple only if you know the key. I personally didn't have a clue until I was hipped up by Rev. Poindexter.

Posted on 15 years ago
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I also have the bass drum T-Rods but no claws..P.M. if you like mike

Posted on 15 years ago
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