Hey guys!
Found this Zildjian a while back, and would like to know a little bit more about it.
It's 17,7 inches. Not sure if it is a ride or crash (I'm not a drummer). It also has 4 evenly spread out drillholes on it.
The stamp says K Zildjian & co, Istanbul.
I'm guessing it is pretty old...
Thankful for help!
Not a drummer...but you know it's a old K..and not sure if it's a ride or crash?Storm Trooper
hahahahaha..
Blair , you read my mind.!
Bop iT / Til U Drop iT.
Not a drummer...but you know it's a old K..and not sure if it's a ride or crash?Storm Trooper
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I'm not a drummer, but I'm not an idiot. Obviously I looked around on the internet and found that it's probably older than 56-57 due to the stamp changing at that time. But my stamp is a little bit different from the ones I found on the internet. Like this site: http://robscott.net/cymbals/k-istanbul/
And it doesn't say if it's a ride or a crash on the cymbal.
That's why I want to ask people who know a bit more. why not be nice to me instead of mocking me?
Not quite sure what all that was about ... kinda strange, for sure. Hopefully the parties will apologize to you for that less than congenial welcome at some time in the near future.
Welcome to the forum, Karlito!
As far as whether the cymbal in question is a ride or a crash ... weight would ultimately determine that. If it is heavy and pingy - ride. If it is medium weight and gives a nice woody ride pattern while still opening up a bit - crash/ride. If it is washy and wants to stay open - crash. There's not really a science to it. Even the cymbals marked "ride" are often used as crashes ... and vice versa. We're drummers. We make it work.
The drill holes were most likely for rivets. These are made from various types of metal (brass, steel, aluminum, small cats, an occasional underripe gooseberry, very loud worms, etc). They are installed in the drill holes and vibrate when the cymbal is struck. It adds a bit of white noise (SIZZLE) to the natural tone of the cymbal. My guess: this was originally a nice old sizzle ride. It has a wonderful patina formed and would be a sweet addition to any jazz-lovers setup.
Congrats on the beautiful cymbal.
Yes, the fact that there are holes for rivets means it's probably a Ride. That's a nice cymbal.
Stephen
agreed probably a ride cymbal. as already mentioned the weight will tell the story on that end of it. weight it in grams and post your findings on it.
?I'm not a drummer, but I'm not an idiot. Obviously I looked around on the internet and found that it's probably older than 56-57 due to the stamp changing at that time. But my stamp is a little bit different from the ones I found on the internet. Like this site: http://robscott.net/cymbals/k-istanbul/And it doesn't say if it's a ride or a crash on the cymbal. That's why I want to ask people who know a bit more. why not be nice to me instead of mocking me?
Why do you think its just prior to 56-57? It looks like a Type IIB Old Stamp from 1949-50. The later stars were smaller and in a different position. The stars did not get big again until the New stamps.
With rivet holes it may have been use as a ride. Keep in mind that it was only in the mid-late '40s that drummers started keeping time on a "ride" cymbal rather than on the hats or snare drum. I'm not sure whether K. Zildjian even identified a difference in their catalog as early at 1949. Certainly not much earlier a cymbal was a cymbal. They had different diameters and different weights. It was up to the drummer to decide how they would be used.
