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Gretsch Walnut lacquer

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Sorry I posted this in the wrong section before, so here it is in the right place. I recently got a gretsch walnut lacquer bass drum. I plan on taking 2 gretsch round badge toms and staining them myself. The ply taking the stain is maple. I hear maple is very hard to stain? Some wood sites suggest using dye? or a shellac first? Anybody ever done anything like this before? I have 0 experience doing this. Any and all tips will be very helpful. I have the toms stripped and ready to go ( these were previously rewrapped, so I didnt strip a org kit). Now Im just waiting on tips. Will a shellac effect the sound? Thanks a ton.

Keith

Posted on 11 years ago
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A wood conditioner may help the wood absorb the stain evenly. Use this only if using oil stain.

You may want to try water based first as it can be sanded lighter and deepened in layers. You can still use oil after if you don't see what you like.

Hopefully some of the gurus will post up some gems.

I do know this.

DO NOT shellac the interiors.

Don't sand the interiors either.

In fact, do as little with the interiors or edges as possible. You will loose your vintage sound.

60's Sonor Teardrops & 70s Premier AMs
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"unless it's vintage, it's just another wooden tube."
Posted on 11 years ago
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Take a look at these videos starting at the 3:00 mark of the first one!

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5jl8PGUYuk[/ame]

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxNy-vF0rG8[/ame]

Never play it the same way once.
Posted on 11 years ago
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Thats great, helps a ton. Thanks so, so much.

Posted on 11 years ago
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Another option to consider is colored lacquer. It skips a few steps, and is very easy to obtain a uniform finish, rather than worry about blending and matching lighter and darker panels.

This kit was done with colored nitro cellulose lacquer (not by me, and unfortunately the guy doesn't do it anymore): http://www.classicvintagedrums.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=93&products_id=735

http://www.classicvintagedrums.com
Posted on 11 years ago
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Fantastic info.

I never knew about the soap during sanding.

Thanx a bunch for posting this.

60's Sonor Teardrops & 70s Premier AMs
Sabian
Vic Firth
Remo/Evans

"unless it's vintage, it's just another wooden tube."
Posted on 11 years ago
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Bill, The I myself called a couple fine furniture repair men, and cabinet maker to do the job. I wanted to use a nitro lacquer, 1 guy told me he didnt work with that/ or it was illegal, wasnt sure where he was goin with that. The other guy said poly was the same. Im guessing it be really hard to find colored nitro? As I myself only found the clear coat at reranch. That kit looks awesome, thats what Im trying to do. Thanks for the bass, its awesome!

Posted on 11 years ago
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From KEITHFOX

Bill, The I myself called a couple fine furniture repair men, and cabinet maker to do the job. I wanted to use a nitro lacquer, 1 guy told me he didnt work with that/ or it was illegal, wasnt sure where he was goin with that. The other guy said poly was the same. Im guessing it be really hard to find colored nitro? As I myself only found the clear coat at reranch. That kit looks awesome, thats what Im trying to do. Thanks for the bass, its awesome!

I don’t know where you are located but my supplier Oharco.com makes a shading additive to add to the lacquer. The additive matches whatever stain color you are using and can even be made for a custom matched stain color. I use all M.L. Campbell products. Perhaps you can find someone familiar with these products or something similar. Some guys mix stain into the lacquer but I have been taught that you should not do that. Maple is one of the more difficult woods to stain. The suggestion of using a conditioner is a good one. I make my own conditioner by mixing 1 part of stain base (clear stain with no pigment added) with 1 part of mineral spirits. If you are trying to match the bass drum then that will be a challenge. Glad to hear you are looking for a professional to do the work, this is not a do it yourself project with rattle cans. A guy like me (cabinet maker) could have stain matched to the bass drum and with the use of the shading additive come very close to matching. So you are going the right direction here. Good luck and please keep us posted.


Thank you!
Jeff C

"Enjoy every sandwich" Warren Zevon
Posted on 11 years ago
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See Keith.

I knew it wouldn't be long before the REAL experts chimed in.

Great stuff. I too picked up some "gems"

Thanx for posting this question.

60's Sonor Teardrops & 70s Premier AMs
Sabian
Vic Firth
Remo/Evans

"unless it's vintage, it's just another wooden tube."
Posted on 11 years ago
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Yeah I know. Real helpful info here. Thanks

Posted on 11 years ago
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