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Jeff,

Thanks for the tips. Yeah, that Gorilla Glue has a mind of its own.

I will use yellow wood glue. Not sure I have 25 clamps. :eek: But I'll do my best with what I have (10 - 15 clamps). Maybe I'll borrow a few too.

-Tim

Posted on 11 years ago
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Great info here, Fellas. I have contemplated doing this myself, and if I find a marcher at the right price, sounds like a fun project to attempt. Keep up the good work!

Aaron

- EMD
Posted on 11 years ago
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I'm glad this information is helpful. I bought a 1/8th inch round over router bit and will be cutting the shell and installing the re-ring this weekend. I'll try to take and post pictures.

-Tim

Posted on 11 years ago
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From thornbeck

I'm glad this information is helpful. I bought a 1/8th inch round over router bit and will be cutting the shell and installing the re-ring this weekend. I'll try to take and post pictures.-Tim

Are you using the 1/8 round bit for the outside profile or inside or both? Soon I will be getting my Keller shell for my snare drum build. It was ordered with no edges so Im finding this thread to be very useful. Please do post some pics of your work.

Jeff C


Thank you!
Jeff C

"Enjoy every sandwich" Warren Zevon
Posted on 11 years ago
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Will do. After I cut the shell, I'm going to do some router bit testing on the discarded section to get comfortable before I attempt cutting the bearing edge on the half I am keeping. I only plan to use the round-over bit on the outside, since the re-ring already has the correct angle for the inside.

-Tim

Posted on 11 years ago
#15
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Well ...

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[*]I had everything measured out

[*]taped the shell where the blade was going to make the cut

[*]clamped an extra board to the table saw fence

[*]adjusted the height of the saw blade

[*]measured the correct distance from blade to the fence at 5 5/8"

[*]double checked the measurements

[*]held the shell over the non-running blade to make sure it was contacting the guide marks I scribed onto the tape

[*]pulled the shell away from the blade

[*]turned on the saw

[*]put the shell back over top of the blade and lowered the shell to start the cut

[*]everything is going well and then noticed the blade cut was too close to one of the lug holes, STOP!

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:mad: Soap Box CryBaby DOH

When I set the shell down to turn on the saw, I must have turned the shell around. I was making the cut based off of the wrong end of the shell.

Oh well. I stopped cutting, jumped up and down for a bit, calmed down and started the correct cut on the correct end. I got though the shell with a pretty clean cut that just needs a little bit of level sanding.

Change of plan on the inside of the shell. I was able to fill the 5" - 6" long blade run with wood putty and it sanded it down flush on the inside. Instead of a couple coats of clear on the inside, I'm just going to do the "Ludwig White" finish.

On the outside I'm going to try and match a small piece of wrap taken from the discarded shell piece. It's a dark blue sparkle, so I should be able to get a pretty good match. Once I get it attached, I'm going to blend the patch piece seams with the shell wrap seams by using some buffing compound then use some Novus. I think I might even try some steam to soften up the patch piece and wrap. This might help it blend a little better. If anyone has other tips for blending wrap patches, I'm all ears. If the patch doesn't turn out well, then I could always re-wrap the shell. I'm glad this is going to be a "player's drum".

I know one thing, if or when I do another reproduction, I shouldn't make this mistake again. Lessons learned. :D

Hopefully this information will help someone NOT make the same mistake as I did. Sorry no pictures, but I think you get the idea. :)

I was able to get the re-ring successfully glued back into the shell.

-Tim

Posted on 11 years ago
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Tim, you work like I do. Sorry to hear the misshap. I have some blue sparkle wrap from some Slingerlands I could send you a peice if you want.


Thank you!
Jeff C

"Enjoy every sandwich" Warren Zevon
Posted on 11 years ago
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Tim,

Sounds like you came up with the correct procedure to correct the mistake, and yes, that happens. Ludwig white is fine -- I had no choice on the 12x15 cutdown I recently did because the hole spacing didn't match at all... so the eight holes left-over had to be filled and 16 new ones drilled anyway, so Ludwig white it became!

I've not tried to save the wrap on any of mine -- and since it's a cut-down anyway it really isn't going to devalue it anymore by re-wrapping it. And Precision ALWAYS has a snare drum sized pieces of wrap on special for $10 + shipping. Last I looked it was green sparkle, but sometimes they change that from week to week...

Bill

Bill
Cherryvale, Ks
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Posted on 11 years ago
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Thanks, Jeff. Measure once, cut twice. Right? :)

Once the blade was spinning, I think I was worried about the shell kicking back or losing a finger since the blade guard was removed.

Thanks for the blue sparkle wrap offer. I'll keep it in mind, if the repair doesn't turn out.

Tonight I'm going to fill in any small gaps between the re-ring and shell, level the top, then round-over the outer edge and paint the inside of the shell.

I might at least get the patch piece removed from the discarded shell half.

-Tim

Posted on 11 years ago
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You did the measure twice cut once correct, you just forgot the " check which peice I want to keep" part. Done it many times. Yes, cutting a shell on the table saw is scary. Thats why Odball said to raise your blade just enough to make the cut. No need for 2" of blade out there waiting for fingers. I think it would be smart to make a jig to roll the shell against while the cut is made. The biggest threat is to bind up and have the shell kick back on you. I wonder if the band saw would work better, hmmm , have to experiment.

Post us some pics when you get her painted.

Jeff C


Thank you!
Jeff C

"Enjoy every sandwich" Warren Zevon
Posted on 11 years ago
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