Grab the 18" if it's top of the line also!

Well, I took my h-hat stand along with my Top Rock hats so I could listen to them and the Ones for sale side by side. I did like his a little better but not 90.00 worth of better. I did end up buying the one in the pics below, it sounded really sweet as a ride or crash. It is 19" in diameter, is that weird?

Paid 80 for that one. The stamp is 1" wide by 1.25" tall. I have a 20" Zildjian crash and the stamp on it is bigger. Time to research the stamps again!

Jeff C

Odd size cymbals are always cool..and I like the factory rivet holes..

Most rivet cymbals are Medium I recall..is this one?

I always wondered that too...............until I got one and weighed all of my cymbals. It's good for a frame of reference standpoint. Let's say you have a 12" splash that you really like, and are looking for another that is similar to it. If you know the weight, you'll easily be able to tell the range in weights that will compliment it and be what you're after. If yours weighs 300 grams, than you'll know that 450 grams would be too heavy and clangy, while 220 grams may be too light.

Use it as a guide though, and not as an absolute be all end all. I have a few "mix and match" hi-hats where the top cymbal was actually heavier when I weighed them (much to my surprise), but they still sound great. I wrote the weight in grams on the underneath side of the bell on all my cymbals. Again, it's great for a frame of reference.

As far as the scale, I have a DYMO M10 digital postal scale that has up to a 10 pound capacity (not many cymbals over 10 pounds out there!), and weighs in either pounds/ounces or grams. It runs on 4 AAA batteries, or USB. I think I paid around $70 or so at Staples. That might be a bit higher than other scales, but it is well worth it and it's very easy to use. You can check them out online or at Staples website.

Yes I would call it medium. I think this one is from the 60's. It has a nice patina on it also.

Jeff C

I have also heard that A.Zil took BAD sounding cymbals to make Sizzles out of.........not sure if that is true or not......

One of the best Turk K's I have ever heard was a Old Stamp 18" Sizzle...........

Never heard anything about using seconds for riveted cymbals. But you can send any Zildjian or Paiste cymbal to the factory and Rivet Installation is free.

Done it with both. Now that's service on a 40 year old cymbal!.

As far as hats go. Its the ears, not the scale. Hats cut though everything else on your kit when your playing so you want to make them pleasing when you hear them. No rules. I have had old NBs that were "harsh" and heard mis matches that I loved. Many drummers flip the heavier bottom to the top and then back again when they tire of it. No rules. Once played with 3 dimes in mine.

I like this $0.30 mod! I might give it a try soon! Hmmmm

I haven't been in the Vintage Cymbal section of this forum for some time so have been reading with interest some of the more recent threads. Weighing cymbals and writing their weight on the underside of the bell is also what I do. As you mention, it's great for a frame of reference and certainly helps to narrow the search field when looking for something to compliment the cymbals you may already be using. I also keep track of the gap in weights between my cymbals of different sizes. This also helps me narrow in on what I may be looking for.

As for the scale, I use a SOEHNLE kitchen scale that I got some years ago at someplace like WalMart (can't recall exactly where). Its limits are 6 lbs, 10 ounces and 3 kilograms respectively, divided into 1/2 ounce and 10 gram segments - which is quite adequate for me since all my cymbals (other than my medium ride) fall in the light and extra-light range. A very handy little tool as well as cheap (I think it was around $15).

Jeff nice buy on the crash/ride/sizzle. You did very well and looks really nice. That's the kinda deal I need to find local. They seem to run a little more here that I've seen.