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Royal Star kit

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Hi all,

i was looking for a nice looking (/sounding) practice kit and bumped into this Royal Star kit.

it's a 12, 13, 16, 22 configuration from the mid sixties in what looks to me like a walnut wrap!?

if anyone knows the name of the wrap, please share ;)

also, what is the link between Royal Star and Star??

i guess they are both pre-tama wright?

Now, there's only one thing really missing on the kit and that are the screws to hold the toms in place on the mounts. Does anyone have a pic of how they look?

with the kit came a '65 slingerland sound king in very good condition, sounds incredible!

and just out of curiosity, what do those snare fetch these days?? :p

church basements, got to love them!!! LoLoLoLo

anyway,

thanks!

D.

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"Life is about rhythm. We vibrate, our hearts are pumping blood, we are a rhythm machine, that's what we are." (Mickey Hart)

'67 Ludwig Red Sparkle Club Date
with '61 15"x12 marching/floor conversion
60's Royal Star kit
Posted on 11 years ago
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Hi,Photos of the tom mount on the toms will tell me..If its a diamond shape mount you are missing the short T-rods they look like a t-rod on the drums not T-screws wing nut's.. these are metric threads...Mikey

Posted on 11 years ago
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Thanks for the reaction,

it's not a diamond shaped mount...

the mount on the tom slides over the first part of the rail mount for an inch or so.

I'll post pics later today ;)

"Life is about rhythm. We vibrate, our hearts are pumping blood, we are a rhythm machine, that's what we are." (Mickey Hart)

'67 Ludwig Red Sparkle Club Date
with '61 15"x12 marching/floor conversion
60's Royal Star kit
Posted on 11 years ago
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From Supraphonic.D

Thanks for the reaction,it's not a diamond shaped mount...the mount on the tom slides over the first part of the rail mount for an inch or so.I'll post pics later today ;)

Please do but i think iam sure of what piece you need,is your mount mounted by three screws? and has a round middle piece in the middle with about a 1/2hole and the tom mount from the bass drum has a hex shape rod that is rounded at the end that would go into the tom mount?..If you what you are missing is the short T-rod that you used a drum key to tightin on the tom with..They are about 1/2" long ....Mikey

Posted on 11 years ago
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From MIKEY777

Please do but i think iam sure of what piece you need,is your mount mounted by three screws? and has a round middle piece in the middle with about a 1/2hole and the tom mount from the bass drum has a hex shape rod that is rounded at the end that would go into the tom mount?..If you what you are missing is the short T-rod that you used a drum key to tightin on the tom with..They are about 1/2" long ....Mikey

Mikey,

you are a true magician!!

that is exactly how it looks!

i thought you were refering to the spade style mounts, my bad Toilet

so what i need looks like a normal t-rod, about 1/2" long, with a metric tread and a regular diameter??

thank you very much!!!

you are great!! ;)

D.

"Life is about rhythm. We vibrate, our hearts are pumping blood, we are a rhythm machine, that's what we are." (Mickey Hart)

'67 Ludwig Red Sparkle Club Date
with '61 15"x12 marching/floor conversion
60's Royal Star kit
Posted on 11 years ago
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So, i found some t-rods that fit.

Thanks Mikey!

Can anyone tell me some more about the connection between Star and Royal Star??

Where they two different co-existing brands or was one brand a branch of the other?? (Like with premier and olympic)

Thanks

D.

"Life is about rhythm. We vibrate, our hearts are pumping blood, we are a rhythm machine, that's what we are." (Mickey Hart)

'67 Ludwig Red Sparkle Club Date
with '61 15"x12 marching/floor conversion
60's Royal Star kit
Posted on 11 years ago
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Posts: 5227 Threads: 555

From Supraphonic.D

So, i found some t-rods that fit.Thanks Mikey!Can anyone tell me some more about the connection between Star and Royal Star??Where they two different co-existing brands or was one brand a branch of the other?? (Like with premier and olympic)ThanksD.

Glad to be of help to you "D"..Star and Royal Star drums are made by the same maker Tama..Star was the fisrt line of drums made by them..Royal Star drums were a line of drums that were the top of the line of Star made drums..Tama used the Royal Star name on Tama drums in the 1980's Royal Star.SuperStar ete....Mikey

Posted on 11 years ago
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From MIKEY777

Glad to be of help to you "D"..Star and Royal Star drums are made by the same maker Tama..Star was the fisrt line of drums made by them..Royal Star drums were a line of drums that were the top of the line of Star made drums..Tama used the Royal Star name on Tama drums in the 1980's Royal Star.SuperStar ete....Mikey

Thanks again,

I was already thinking in that direction.

This kit has a 10 lug bassdrum, haven't seen a lot of those with Star :p

Great, looks like i found myself an enjoyable kit. Some cleaning up, and it's ready to go!!

greets

D. (Dennis :p)

"Life is about rhythm. We vibrate, our hearts are pumping blood, we are a rhythm machine, that's what we are." (Mickey Hart)

'67 Ludwig Red Sparkle Club Date
with '61 15"x12 marching/floor conversion
60's Royal Star kit
Posted on 11 years ago
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Hello,

The wrap might be called 'Rose wood grain'. It's the first time that I see a STAR drumset with a genuine wooden finish. Guess, they're pretty rare with this wood surface (unless your drums are - much later - wrapped by a drummer with an additional plastiv adhesive foil?).

The black-golden 'Royal Star' badge was the first/ earlier of two versions of 'Royal Star' badges from Star (the other one was a round silver one) during their short era between 1961 - 1973. Your badge dates the set to very late 60s to early 70s.

Can you give us some information about the inside of the shells (painted in grey or not, with/ without rerings etc.), please?

Ralf

NB:

You should find a pic of the genuine tom mount here, in TAMA's catalogues:

http://www.tamadrum.co.jp/anniversary/page.php?cat_id=8&year=1972

Vintage STAR (= Pre-Tama) website: www.star-drums.de
Posted on 11 years ago
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From Ralf

Hello,The wrap might be called 'Rose wood grain'. It's the first time that I see a STAR drumset with a genuine wooden finish. Guess, they're pretty rare with this wood surface (unless your drums are - much later - wrapped by a drummer with an additional plastiv adhesive foil?).The black-golden 'Royal Star' badge was the first/ earlier of two versions of 'Royal Star' badges from Star (the other one was a round silver one) during their short era between 1961 - 1973. Your badge dates the set to very late 60s to early 70s.Can you give us some information about the inside of the shells (painted in grey or not, with/ without rerings etc.), please?RalfNB:You should find a pic of the genuine tom mount here, in TAMA's catalogues:http://www.tamadrum.co.jp/anniversary/page.php?cat_id=8&year=1972

Hi Ralf,

thanks for the info! it's a great help!!

the interiors of the drums do indeed have a grey coating but no re-rings.

there is nothing that clearly indicates it would be a rewrap, but i haven't really checked it yet...

it appears the kit i have, was called 'golden tone' and the wrap may well be the 'rose wood grain' although mine looks darker than the one in the catalog.

thanks

D.

"Life is about rhythm. We vibrate, our hearts are pumping blood, we are a rhythm machine, that's what we are." (Mickey Hart)

'67 Ludwig Red Sparkle Club Date
with '61 15"x12 marching/floor conversion
60's Royal Star kit
Posted on 11 years ago
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