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Unmated Vistalite Crack

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I'm fixing up a worn Vistalite kit and ordered Weld-On #4 and Novus.

The second tom has a crack from the muffler to the opposite lug hole which separates in the middle, i.e. the sides of the crack do not mate well. How would you fix something like this?

I'm considering:

- Doing nothing; leaving it be.

- Applying Weld-On to the extreme ends of the crack, to hopefully keep the crack from growing

- Rigging some kind of complex clamp system to try to force the shell to mate better, and then applying Weld-On #4 to bond it closed. (Least likely option)

The dark line in the photo is the visible, offset part of the crack looking down the shell.

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Posted on 11 years ago
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Send the shell in to Precision Drum Co. They are set-up to work with Vistalite shells. Better to trust an expert with a repair like that one.

John

Too many great drums to list here!

http://www.walbergandauge.com/VintageVenue.htm
Posted on 11 years ago
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From RimShot3

I'm fixing up a worn Vistalite kit and ordered Weld-On #4 and Novus. The second tom has a crack from the muffler to the opposite lug hole which separates in the middle, i.e. the sides of the crack do not mate well. How would you fix something like this?I'm considering:- Doing nothing; leaving it be.- Applying Weld-On to the extreme ends of the crack, to hopefully keep the crack from growing- Rigging some kind of complex clamp system to try to force the shell to mate better, and then applying Weld-On #4 to bond it closed. (Least likely option)The dark line in the photo is the visible, offset part of the crack looking down the shell.

I just repaired a seperated seam on a 24" Vistalite bass drum and the ends, from the bearing edge in about 6" met perfectly and the rest of the seam didn't even touch by about 1/8 of an inch, pretty good size gap. Not sure how that happened but I'll tell you this...I used Weldon 16 for the gapping areas and it did awesome. Weldon 3 did the rest and the repair looks really good and it's healed perfectly. Weldon 16 is much thicker which makes it actually workable and goes on thick enough that it stays put while you put the edges together. I was very impressed with that product. I've used the Weldon 3 often but this was the first time I used the thicker gel like stuff and it filled the gaps and dried up hard. It should cure your ill, it sure did mine!!

Posted on 11 years ago
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How did you physically work with the drum as you repaired it?

I mean, did you apply #16 and then force the crack into place? Clamps?

Curious to know your process...

Posted on 11 years ago
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From RimShot3

How did you physically work with the drum as you repaired it?I mean, did you apply #16 and then force the crack into place? Clamps?Curious to know your process...

I think my situation was different than yours. I just had a gap to fill but the sides were even to each other where I think yours are not? My shell was totally seperated so I was able to apply the thicker weldon directly to the one edge with the drum sitting on my lap. I then put the shell together and sat it on a bench on it's face (bearing edge on table) and put two sets of hose clamps banded together to circle the shell and snugged the bands. I had painters tape on the outside of the shell so that the weldon didn't just fall out the other side. It sets up fairly quick so that I was able to remove that tape before it actually set and it made for a nice seam. I then let it sit for 2 days before removing the bands. Like I said, I also ran some weldon 3 along the seam where they touched like they are supposed to. The weldon 16 set up hard and filled the gaps perfectly. I am going to add a picture to this posting here shortly.

[IMG]http://i1265.photobucket.com/albums/jj507/Drumfactory/SDC12723.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i1265.photobucket.com/albums/jj507/Drumfactory/SDC12724.jpg[/IMG]

the repair on the outside looks worse in this picture than in person but the alternative was a trashed 24" shell. That weldon 16 actually filled a large gap and made this drum full survice again. It's a very strong bond and am confident that the repair will be permanent. Very good product!!

[IMG]http://i1265.photobucket.com/albums/jj507/Drumfactory/SDC12527.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i1265.photobucket.com/albums/jj507/Drumfactory/SDC12704.jpg[/IMG]

Posted on 11 years ago
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From RimShot3

How did you physically work with the drum as you repaired it?I mean, did you apply #16 and then force the crack into place? Clamps?Curious to know your process...

Your situation is different than a seam repair. You have an internally located crack with edges that do not meet up. It will require an expert who knows how work with Vistalite to do a good repair. I wouldn't attempt the repair and I've repaired a ton of vistas in the last 30 years.

Which is why I recommended that you let the pro's at Precision handle it. If -they- crack the shell, they're responsible for replacing it. If you screw it up, you're just stuck.

Call Andrea at Precision. Ask her what they charge for that kind of repair. They are set-up to work with acrylic shells and they know what they're doing.

John

Too many great drums to list here!

http://www.walbergandauge.com/VintageVenue.htm
Posted on 11 years ago
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From Purdie Shuffle

Your situation is different than a seam repair. You have an internally located crack with edges that do not meet up. It will require an expert who knows how work with Vistalite to do a good repair. I wouldn't attempt the repair and I've repaired a ton of vistas in the last 30 years.Which is why I recommended that you let the pro's at Precision handle it. If -they- crack the shell, they're responsible for replacing it. If you screw it up, you're just stuck.Call Andrea at Precision. Ask her what they charge for that kind of repair. They are set-up to work with acrylic shells and they know what they're doing.John

100% agree on this. Very different animal!

Posted on 11 years ago
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Thanks for the pics and explanation.

I emailed Precision Drum last night after your first suggestion, Mr. Purdie... awaiting a response but still wrapping my brain around it in the mean time!

flower

Posted on 11 years ago
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Better safe than sorry... call again if you don't hear right back. They're busy over there.

John

Too many great drums to list here!

http://www.walbergandauge.com/VintageVenue.htm
Posted on 11 years ago
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Got this message from Precision Drum today:

"We do not repair acrylic shells, so I can't advise you. You could try contacting RCI which is the manufacturer of the acrylic shells that we carry.

Best regards, Gary"

I will try RCI, but in the mean time...The crack doesn't bother me as such, so I'm leaning toward fusing the extreme ends of the crack and leaving the unmated part as-is.

:Santa:

Posted on 11 years ago
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