Hey Welcome,

Your snare probably had a P-83 origionally.

Try string instead of the plastic strips to prevent slipping.

The 007 can fit with a retroplate, look for it on e-bay. I nearly got the 007 for my snare but I opted for the P-83.

I'd say use string...I've never had a p-85 fail on hundreds of gigs...

Hello again and thank you for the very kind welcome!! Jumping2

GAR, I'll look for the 007 and the P-83 on ebay, I didn't see a P-83 when I checked last night though. I didn't check for a Trick 007, I'll do that in a minute.

Rich K., I did try strings once and had the same problem; but I did not use true snare string - I used a shoelace. :o However, I will try again. Could you please recommend what brand and type of string you use? I guess I just don't like the new P-85's because they seem to always fail on me and they bend very easily. Do you have a vintage P-85, or a new one?

Thank you again! Clapping Happy2

Hello again. I did find a P-83 on ebay, but I don't really know what to make of it. It appears to have been modified from the original, or do vintage throw offs come with flat head screws instead of phillips head? I'd like the experts opinions before I bid, so if you would be so kind here is a link to the P-83 auction:

The flat head screws are original to the P-83 -which is the correct throwoff for your 60's era Supra.

As suggested, SNARE string is what you want. regular string doesn't work as well.

The P-83 is going to cost you a LOT more than a P-85, but it's a better throwoff (in my opinion)....and it's the proper throwoff for your drum.

I wouldn't recommend an 007 throwoff for such a nice vintage Supra. You could try wrapping the tension adjustment screw with some teflon tape or you could even put a small drop of light duty thread locker on the threads to prevent the screw from backing out and loosening on you.

Thank you O-Lugs for your expertise tool! Cool1 Great ideas I'll certainly look into.

I'm leaning against the Trick throw off for now because the butt plate is an extra $35.00 with S/H included, which would be about $130.00 for a complete snare throw off.

I'm glad to know they used flat head screws back then as well.

I have to get ready for work now, so I won't be able to see any replies for awhile. However, what brand, if any, would you guys and gals use for the snare string/cord please? i'm just used to using plastic strips, which is what I'm using at the moment. And as stated above, my only attempt at snare string was a shoelace - I know, hang me with a new rope!! LoLoLoLo

Thank you all again for your very valuable time and expertise, it is not taken lightly. Lenny

Another thing you probably should do is to have a talk with the Saturday service's drummer and explain that over-tightening the mechanism isn't the right way to go about solving the problem.Burger Kin

Yep, I'll have to have a talk to whoever is doing that. The trouble is I don't know who is doing it. They are also raising the cymbals to a ridiculous height, tightening my bass pedal, as well as changing the tension on my hat stand too. I wouldn't mind if they would put everything back the way they found it, but they don't. I would never do that, as it goes against the drummer's code of conduct. I will print up a note and leave it on my drums as well, because I probably won't get to see the culprit before the next singing. In the note, once I explain the cost of replacing anything they may break, hopefully this will stop. Also, my minister is going to start telling visiting drummers not to adjust anything because they are not the church's drums per se, but mine.

Thank you again for all the help!! :cool:

Ludwig still makes some of the best snare cord around, and if you need something indestructible try Joe Montineri's snare wire, but DON'T over tighten it, it might break other things, but it won't break.

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