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How close are you? I am excited for you. Have ever had any of these 3 ply shells? I really love them. So far these shells have proven to be my faves. The resonance and rumbling tone of the bass an floor tom, the soft slap and vibe from the mounted tom all make for such a really warm sounding kit.flowers2 One thing you will need to be careful of is the ring. I am fighting a ringing overtone on one of mine, but I think at this point it is the choice of heads, and possibly the high tension I have on them. Later today I am going to be working on the tone of tuning on it. The FT and bass are sound good, so maybe I have some edge work to do, soften them from the modern to a more traditional, rounded contour.

Let's see them when you win! Jumping2

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Posted on 14 years ago
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The auction got a bit strange and I passed on over-bidding. I bid 350$ and it sold for 360$ - but 350$ was too much IMO. I was the 2nd highest bidder and I won`t be surprised if I get a mail from the seller asking me if I want it- the winning bidder had some bad feedback and has backed out of expensive auctions before. So for now this fish got away but my nets in the water stillCar Driving2

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Posted on 14 years ago
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That sux. I really think that is a bit high tho. Was it you and Mr. BF from the top down to where you were more comfortable? I guess what I am asking is if he picked up the bid and beat you up from like a 100bucks, or did he sneak in at the end where you were in it with others? The reason I ask is because if you had the bid at a hundred, and can get them for that, I would suggest that is about the real price for these shells, considering you have a bit of work.

I spent about 3 hours yesterday tuning on my drums. I tried high, low in between, everything and I was about to give up, thinking they will not be more than just very pretty, practice drums. Then I thought about the tuning video Bob Gatzen does on the Evans site. So, I went to the bass, I had it sounding OK. Not what I wanted, but not too bad, a bit ringier than I wanted. I followed the video to a tee, now it it is Thor, on steroids. It is pumping an Attack single ply no overtone batter side, a 45+ year old batter with a light coat of spray paint-Rustoleum indoor/outdoor satin, enough to control the the Attack head with no meaningful change to the bearing edge. Then I turned to the floor tom. Again, it is a bit ringy. Not too much, but more than I want. So I tried the bass tuning approach on it, viola, it came right up, again very large and thunderous. Now it is time for the mounted tom, which has really been giving me fits, and I can't stand the ringieness, very high and ear splitting. So, what do I have to lose? I try it again using the bass tuning method on a high tom. Once more, it goes to the spot, sweet as dark honey. So now this kit has found it's tone and lovely, velvety voice. Using Evans' EC2 top and Attack single res, it is a very thunderous kit, not much for range, but remember, these shells have been altered with the addition of the curly maple veneer, effectively making these 4 pl shells. So this kit now has a name. So when I can afford to invest in more heads, I will again do some tuning. I really don't want to ruin the aesthetic value of the new veneer interiors by putting Ambassadors or Emperors, or any other coateds, so if you, or anyone for that matter, has any suggestions, I am open. But since I really love thunder, I don't know that I will change much about them, other than maybe the resos...and then maybe to snare bottoms, as I have found the Evans Hazy reso heads to work nicely for these old drums, and the 200 or heavier are the ones. I know, but they just work so well.....

Anyway, if you manage to get the second chance on them, let me know, I have some success with these shells. If you have some of them, you know, if not, they are nice. One good thing is there is enough room the experiment a little bit with the edges. I like the old school, rounder type on these thin shells. And I have also coated the interiors with lacquer, and I will do this with all of my thinner shells from now on, as for the MIJ shells. It just adds a character to them, and new resonance that will allow them to live and breathe for another 50 years.

"Ignorance may be overcome through education. Stupidity, however, is a lifelong endeavor." So, educate me, I don't likes bein' ignant...
"I enjoy restoring 60s Japanese "stencil" drums...I can actually afford them..."I rescue the worst of the old valueless drums for disadvantaged Children and gladly accept donations of parts, pieces and orphans, No cockroaches, please...
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Posted on 14 years ago
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Thanks man- we are fisherman and some will get away- the first rule of auction is know what you aren`t willing to pay and stick to it. I won`t bid 1cent over my decided limit- otherwise it`s a merry-go-round, ya know?

I really find these old luan shells like Remo Fiberskyn 3 FAs. top and bottom if you can- very warm and controls that ring.

For info. & live schedule:
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*Japan Distributor of Vruk DrumMaster pedals
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Posted on 14 years ago
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Posted on 14 years ago
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I haven`t seen that particular one either- thanks for posting! very cool to see that. I have another unusual one here from 1968:

[IMG]http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn87/Osakabop/20100315233743.jpg[/IMG]

Pearl seemed to have been experimenting alot.Cool1

For info. & live schedule:
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*D'Addario Japan Evans/Promark/Puresound
*Amedia Cymbals Japan

It's the journey not the destination.
Posted on 14 years ago
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From cn679

First of all, go snag the pix and post them. Second, that is 120 more than the snare is or was ever worth. 40-50 is all the money, I don't care how clean or "newish" it is, it ain't a 170.00 drum. Period.

"Ignorance may be overcome through education. Stupidity, however, is a lifelong endeavor." So, educate me, I don't likes bein' ignant...
"I enjoy restoring 60s Japanese "stencil" drums...I can actually afford them..."I rescue the worst of the old valueless drums for disadvantaged Children and gladly accept donations of parts, pieces and orphans, No cockroaches, please...
http://www.youtube.com/user/karstenboy
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Posted on 14 years ago
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Osakabop, jonni, just got this Pearl modern jazz kit in near mint condition. The snare drum appears to be a six ply shell.

Did you ever find any additional info on the "modern jazz"

JC

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Thank you!
Jeff C

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Posted on 12 years ago
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That's the best example of a Modern Jazz I've seen- there have been a number of them on auction here in Japan but not in that good a condition- congrats!

So, from the tom mount and the badge- that one would be from 1970-1974 at the latest. Can you show a close up shot of the shell and the plies making up the shell- is it painted gray on the interior?

For info. & live schedule:
www.EricWiegmanndrums.com
*Odery Drums Japan endorser/ representative
*Japan Distributor of Vruk DrumMaster pedals
*D'Addario Japan Evans/Promark/Puresound
*Amedia Cymbals Japan

It's the journey not the destination.
Posted on 12 years ago
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From OsakaBop

That's the best example of a Modern Jazz I've seen- there have been a number of them on auction here in Japan but not in that good a condition- congrats!So, from the tom mount and the badge- that one would be from 1970-1974 at the latest. Can you show a close up shot of the shell and the plies making up the shell- is it painted gray on the interior?

Yes I would be happy to get the picture but give me a day or so, lots of family coming tonight. The snare shell is bare wood, grain running rim to rim, probably luan. As soon as I get time I will pull the head off one of the drums and get some good edge pictures. Thank you for buzzing in!

JC


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Jeff C

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Posted on 12 years ago
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