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I thought there was a post here, by orangemi maybe?, comparing EAK stamps--he showed two auctions, one had a stamp showing 'made in canada' & one without it. I asked how you knew it wasn't made in Turkey if there was no 'made in canada' stamp, & drumaholic said it would say 'Istanbul' & 'made in Turkey' on the cymbal. Anyhow, I'm looking for the thread and can't find it. Any help?

I just saw an ebay auction for an EAK that said 'made in USA' on it--does that make sense? I thought they were made in meductic, canada. I've never got the full lowdown on EAK's , but I thought i was getting close on these threads.....marko

Posted on 12 years ago
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From marko52

I thought there was a post here, by orangemi maybe?, comparing EAK stamps--he showed two auctions, one had a stamp showing 'made in canada' & one without it. I asked how you knew it wasn't made in Turkey if there was no 'made in canada' stamp, & drumaholic said it would say 'Istanbul' & 'made in Turkey' on the cymbal. Anyhow, I'm looking for the thread and can't find it. Any help?I just saw an ebay auction for an EAK that said 'made in USA' on it--does that make sense? I thought they were made in meductic, canada. I've never got the full lowdown on EAK's , but I thought i was getting close on these threads.....marko

EAK's were never made in Canada. The Canadian K's were.

The EAK's were always made in the U.S. And the're a totally different cymbal altogether.

http://www.vintagedrumforum.com/showthread.php?t=30605

Posted on 12 years ago
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Thanks again. So....EAK's & Canadian K's are NOT the same thing. Were EAK's made in Massachussetts? By Istanbul cymbalsmiths? Were Canadian K's made by Istanbul cymbalsmiths? (you can stop responding whenever you get tired of these same old questions.)..........marko

Posted on 12 years ago
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I don't know if it applies here but I have also had threads and posts that mysteriously vanished. I contacted admin to see why they were pulled and they said it wasn't pulled but rather deleted by the computer itself, or in other words a tricky little bug in the system that has proved to be harder to figure out than a normal computer issue. This may very well be where that post ended up. He asked me where I was computing from and I guess the IP address had something to do with or whatever. Computer genius is not my thing so this potential explanation may not make much sense. Anyways, this is one possible answer to your original question of where did the post go.

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Posted on 12 years ago
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From drumhack

I don't know if it applies here but I have also had threads and posts that mysteriously vanished. I contacted admin to see why they were pulled and they said it wasn't pulled but rather deleted by the computer itself, or in other words a tricky little bug in the system that has proved to be harder to figure out than a normal computer issue. This may very well be where that post ended up. He asked me where I was computing from and I guess the IP address had something to do with or whatever. Computer genius is not my thing so this potential explanation may not make much sense. Anyways, this is one possible answer to your original question of where did the post go.ToodlesDrumhack guitar2:2Cents:Car Driving2Chewie:

It didn't go anywhere. Four threads below this one is where you'll find the one in question.

Posted on 12 years ago
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From marko52

Thanks again. So....EAK's & Canadian K's are NOT the same thing. Were EAK's made in Massachussetts? By Istanbul cymbalsmiths? Were Canadian K's made by Istanbul cymbalsmiths? (you can stop responding whenever you get tired of these same old questions.)..........marko

The EAK's were made in Mass. but not by ex-K. Zildjian people. The Canadian K's were made by those cymbal smiths. And apparently they had old man Kerope living on the grounds too. But the Canadian K's were made differently than the Turkish ones were.

But any resemblance between the Canadian K cymbals and the Turkish ones, is strictly coincidental. They were both round and made of bronze and that's about where the similarities end.

Posted on 12 years ago
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The Canadian K’s were more similar in manufacturing and design to the early Sabian HH series, which were made by the same cymbal smiths when the Azco factory in Meductic became the Sabian factory . Unlike the Turkish K’s, they were bumped into a preliminary shape with a Quincy drop hammer to cut down on hammering time.

The Canadian K’s were made in limited models and sizes due to the legal issues at the time. When A. Zildjian acquired the K trademarks, they agreed to extend the distribution agreement with Gretsch an additional 10 years. When they had issues with the Turkish government, Zildjian made the Canadian K’s to supply Gretsch and satisfy the agreement. In addition, production of Canadian K’s also coincided with the split between Armand and Robert Zildjian after Avedis Zildjian’s death in 1979 resulting in Robert eventually forming Sabian. There wasn’t much new coming out from Zildjian in the 1980-1981 timeframe.

The USA K line was launched in 1982 and you can see heavy advertising in early 1983, when Zildjian was free and clear of the Gretsch agreement. The EAK’s were made differently than the Canadian K’s or Sabian HH. A Zildjian employee would run a cymbal blank under a mechanical hammer. Then the cymbal was pressed into shape. The cymbal was then hand hammered. The hand hammering was more extensive in the EAK’s than the late 80’s K’s.

Posted on 12 years ago
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From Bri6366

A Zildjian employee would run a cymbal blank under a mechanical hammer. Then the cymbal was pressed into shape. The cymbal was then hand hammered. The hand hammering was more extensive in the EAK’s than the late 80’s K’s.

hmmmmm..... I have a breakdown of knowledge here, evidently. I was not aware of any Zildjian K cymbals (this timeframe) being hand hammered. Someone please verify one way or the other ... Drumaholic???

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Posted on 12 years ago
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From RogerSling

hmmmmm..... I have a breakdown of knowledge here, evidently. I was not aware of any Zildjian K cymbals (this timeframe) being hand hammered. Someone please verify one way or the other ... Drumaholic???

You have to re read my entire post. The answer is yes, they were. This has been confirmed by some of the hammering artisans. However wither it influenced the sound or was mostly cosmetic is another story. As I said, they were run under a mechanical hammer and then machine pressed.

Posted on 12 years ago
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From Bri6366

You have to re read my entire post. The answer is yes, they were. This has been confirmed by some of the hammering artisans. However wither it influenced the sound or was mostly cosmetic is another story. As I said, they were run under a mechanical hammer and then machine pressed.

I read it. I am in no way doubting your knowledge. I'm questioning mine. I am awaiting another authority to verify or refute. Nothing more.

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Posted on 12 years ago
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