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Ringo 20"

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Hi there

I'm playing in a terrific Beatle tribute band here in the Toronto area.

I've been using a couple of 17" and 18" K med/thin dark crashes as the "Ringo" cymbals until I could obtain some vintage Zildjians. They worked quite well actually!

So, I just received a great 60's A 18" crash/ride, weighing in at about 1380 grams. Haven't played it with the kit as yet, but I think it's going to be awesome.

I also purchased an early 70's Zildjian A 20" crash/ride off Ebay, and just received it last Friday. It was advertised at 1825 grams, but after weighing it, it sits at about 1920 grams.

Just trying it at home without the kit (I live in an apartment) it sounds quite loud, almost too loud for me. Maybe it's just that I'm used to the quieter K med/thins?

They are the first vintage Zildjians I've owned, so maybe I just have to get used to that classic old school Zildjian sound?

Would a 20" around 1900 grams be appropriate for that left side Ringo crash?

Thanks, Phil

Posted on 12 years ago
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From wooltonboy

Hi thereWould a 20" around 1900 grams be appropriate for that left side Ringo crash?Thanks, Phil

I believe you'll find that Ringo used an 18" on his right and a 20" on the left.

Never play it the same way once.
Posted on 12 years ago
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From wooltonboy

Would a 20" around 1900 grams be appropriate for that left side Ringo crash?Thanks, Phil

In my opinion that 20" is right. That's considered thin for the period. And the 18" is right in the ballpark too.

Posted on 12 years ago
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From orangemi

I believe you'll find that Ringo used an 18" on his right and a 20" on the left.

Yes, as I said, the 20" is for the left side

cheers

Posted on 12 years ago
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He got his 20" in 1964 from Manny's in NYC. From the Beatles Gear book I can see that it has the characteristic dark unlathed lines in-between the regular lathing lines. That means his 20" was probably late 1950's, but at very earliest 1960's.

As for his 18" it could be anything between a 1947-1949 trans stamp, all the way up to the a mid 50's large stamp. But the reason I bring these things up is to let you know that if you want to be as authentic as possible, you would eventually want to try to get Zildjians of similar weight from similar eras. In other words, hand hammered A's.

Posted on 12 years ago
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From wooltonboy

Yes, as I said, the 20" is for the left sidecheers

I stand corrected...baby crawl2

Never play it the same way once.
Posted on 12 years ago
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Drumaholic that is genius. I am always looking for both an 18'' and 20'' to also be used with tribute acts.

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Posted on 12 years ago
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From wooltonboy

Hi thereI'm playing in a terrific Beatle tribute band here in the Toronto area.I've been using a couple of 17" and 18" K med/thin dark crashes as the "Ringo" cymbals until I could obtain some vintage Zildjians. They worked quite well actually!So, I just received a great 60's A 18" crash/ride, weighing in at about 1380 grams. Haven't played it with the kit as yet, but I think it's going to be awesome.I also purchased an early 70's Zildjian A 20" crash/ride off Ebay, and just received it last Friday. It was advertised at 1825 grams, but after weighing it, it sits at about 1920 grams.Just trying it at home without the kit (I live in an apartment) it sounds quite loud, almost too loud for me. Maybe it's just that I'm used to the quieter K med/thins?They are the first vintage Zildjians I've owned, so maybe I just have to get used to that classic old school Zildjian sound?Would a 20" around 1900 grams be appropriate for that left side Ringo crash?Thanks, Phil

I assume you are trying to emulate Ringo ,after he became famous, as in the post Ed Sullivan era?--------- There is a lot of evidence that some of the earlier recordings, in his Premier drum days and maybe even his Ajax days featured other cymbals. The 20" pictured with his Premier kit, looks to be an Ajax cymbal(Ajax have a unique profile) and he certainly used some Zyns too. If I listen carefully to I Want to Hold Your Hand and other early cuts, I can easily see that they might not be Zildjians.

Posted on 12 years ago
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