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What Slingerland snare is this?

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So I obtained this Slingerland snare from a bulk purchase I made (drumset,hardware, cymabls, mics, etc.) and I started digging around, looking to see what kind of drum this might be. I was able to find out the following things thus far:

The badge dates the drum in the mid to late 60's (copper and black niles)

It looks to be a COB shell (radio king/sound king)

It's a 6 1/2'' x 14'', eight lugs, stick saver hoops

Rapid throw off, zoomatic butt

However, I can not find tell of a snare like this, being made with a zoomatic butt and rapid throw off. There are no additional holes in the drum, so the parts that are there, were there, or something of the exact same size was there.

Does anyone know what this might be?

thanks -

Pictures are here:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/98342763@N00/sets/72157606946149921/

Posted on 16 years ago
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The extended snare butt and the standard butt will interchange with one another...same hole spacing. The standard butt is correct for your "Festival" model...

Posted on 16 years ago
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Hey vadrums, how many have you seen with that shell? They usually cataloged that with a smooth chrome shell and not with the 3 grooves.

congo_king had emailed me on the side and I asked him to post it here because I was not sure about the shell.

I'm sure they are out there like this, but I have not seen one. Then again I never really looked at this model much in the past.

David

Posted on 16 years ago
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There could be the 3 holes in back of the Rapid strainer...Indicating a Zoomatic and making it a Krupa in brass.

Need the magnet test on this one...

Posted on 16 years ago
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I looked for additional holes, and did not find any at all behind the rapid strainer. it does look like someone has messed with the screws/nuts there, due to some markings on the shell where a wrench may have slipped off, but they could be from normal maintenance.

As far as the magnet test, I tried it already, and it definitely appears to be a brass shell, leading me to think it was a krupa with an odd throw off. The magnet stuck to the stick saver rims really well!

Posted on 16 years ago
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For grins, I did some digging for images of festival snares, and I only saw smooth chromed drums, and the muffler adjustment knob/badge/strainer relationships are different than this drum in discussion.

Thoughts?

Posted on 16 years ago
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The Festival was always shown in the catalogs with the smooth shell, which in the '60s and '70s was always steel. There are, however, a ton of Festivals out there with the 3 line shells, which are always brass. These, by the way, are great finds, and can usually be had for short money.

Other than the late '50s and very early '60s metal shelled drums, when you see a 3 line shell it's brass; a smooth one is steel.

Posted on 16 years ago
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Lesson learned for me, I have never seen one, or never really looked for one. There are none on Ebay past or present, plenty of smooth shell version. When I see three lines I assume 3-point or Zoomatic...

So Rich you say ton's, Have you really seen that many, 100's or 1,000's of these? I must be out of the loop on this drum...

David

Posted on 16 years ago
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So this is a festival snare? a late sixties one (with the niles badge in black and copper, serial number, etc. based on the charts?)

I too haven't heard of these, and just started looking them up!

Posted on 16 years ago
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Lesson learned for me, I have never seen one, or never really looked for one. There are none on Ebay past or present, plenty of smooth shell version. When I see three lines I assume 3-point or Zoomatic... So Rich you say ton's, Have you really seen that many, 100's or 1,000's of these? I must be out of the loop on this drum... David

Well, not tons...I'd say I've seen one or two every year since I've been looking at ebay since '97.

Posted on 16 years ago
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