Finally! A vintage gear owner, who isn't completely greedy!! I hate the fact that some people out there who don't realize that not all gear is priceless. I think we forget that at the end of the day, this stuff was built just so we could all hit it with a wooden stick, haha!

Clapping Happy2

Geed is one thing.

But getting the true market value for you item is another and does not amount to greed.

Thank you. Like I said before I thought I did well, especially because I know I didn't pay more than $100 or so for those back in the 70's.

Ah key word "true market" or is it inflated market. I stated fair market and in my opinion, what I got was fair. Maybe you should have bought them from me then you could have sold them for "true market" value.

I'm happy with the transaction.

To be quite honest with you I much prefer the tone of the my newer new beats and rock hats over the K's that I just sold. So now I can but a used telecaster.

I don't need the money so bad that I'm willing to spend $550 to make just $150. I like to see a little better rate of return than that.

But I do find it curious that you could have screwed yourself out of $150 and now you claim that you reasoned that out and decided you just did it because you didn't want to be "greedy". Allowing an item to reach its true value in an open auction is not "greedy". It's just prudent.

Dude take a pill!

It was your loss not mine.

But the last time someone unwittingly sold a cymbal for much less than what he could have gotten for it and I called him on it, he said: "Well I'm not trying to get rich on this"...when in fact it was just a quick and convenient way to manufacture an excuse to cover-up his ignorance.

I asked around and I read up on the cymbals I sold and I saw some sell as high as $667 plus shipping. I even had my buddy start the buy it now at $600, but, then I decided on $550 and asked him to lower it. I JUST WANTED TO GET RID OF THEM!!!!

77 Custom:

Man, just ignore these people. They are mad that they didn't get the cymbals.

I'm with you, if you can't use them or don't like the sound, then just get rid of them. It goes back to the saying "One man's trash is another man's treasure."

I'm glad to see that you were able to make someone else's day. And if you are happy, and the winer bidder is happy, then what is the problem?

I'm sure Webmaster David doesn't appreciate these people being so negative towards you, and taking this situation so poorly. I'm sorry you were subjected to this. My entire belonging to this site, I have never seen people act so poorly and disrespectful.

-Kevin

Thanks Kevin!

I was watching this move through the process and left it as is. You see, we are all seeking information and knowledge and learning about this stuff. There are experts that have something down pretty solid and believe it or not many people do not want to accept what they have to say.

Not only in this situation, but I have been emailed on the side from other experts who have had people not happy with the answer they gave.

To be an expert you have to go out on a limb and give the answer based off of years of research and knowledge which is painstakingly gathered and referenced.

Drumaholic has been at this for many, many years and knows this stuff really well and is an expert on cymbals.

So, many times experts sound a certain way, when in fact they are just so in to their topic they might not come off the right way. I think Drumaholic really wanted to see what the true value was for those cymbals and that is what drives his research and historical documentation.

77custom did what he had to do and he got rid of the cymbals. The market usually does dictate on Ebay and that is that.

I would not take anything personally since this is a forum and things can be taken the wrong way.

I once had an item on Ebay with a reserve of $500 and someone offered me $1500 if I would end the item. He never asked the reserve or what I would take for the item. In fact I had no idea and it could have possibly been worth more. I took the $1500 because that is what he was willing to pay.

For all we know those cymbals could have hit $700 or more. From what I have learned selling on Ebay is that unique, rare, collectible items sell for what they are worth. I have never seen a Ludwig Black Beauty sell for $500, they always hit their respected historical value.

Collectors and historians with a life of collecting find what they are looking for and pay what they know the item is worth.

So, I just think things turned when statements were miss-understood.

I think the original value by Drumaholic was a range.. then the weights were given. Then the statement was made "Those are choice weights."

This was his way of saying those cymbals were closer to the $700 mark based on the weights.

So in the end 77custom, never take these things personally and you did what you wanted to sell the cymbals. This is a forum and other people will have a difference of opinion.

Thanks for sticking up for this forum Kevin! You are correct, this is not the normal tone for the posts on this forum but it is a lesson for others and hopefully people can still learn from it.

David