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The Ludwig snare hunt

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I got a '67 acrolite recently and I love it. It's a unique drum sound, imo.

I still desire to own a Supra. So my question is:

How different is the sound of a Ludalloy Supra to an Acrolite? I already own a Pioneer and a beautiful 80's Bronze Supra (I don't know what else to call it, but it's the 6 1/2" bronze shell with the stamped "B").

Should I wait for a brass shell Supra - the one with the crimped beds?

In short - is the heavy brass Supra the bee's knees of Ludwig metal shells?

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Posted on 16 years ago
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As far as I'm aware (Ludwig experts leap in whenever you're ready or when I make a hash of it) the Ludalloy shells used for Acrolites and Supras are essentially the same - the difference being that the Acros have only eight (bowtie style) lugs and the Supras ten and, of course, the chromed shell. That's about the only difference I think.

I had an oddball 80s chromed 6 1/2" deep eight lugger with bowtie lugs once but, after having seen a thread in here, it seems that was a bit of a rarity.

Posted on 16 years ago
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Hey trout,

Do you think you can post some pics of your snares, especially the bronze?

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Posted on 16 years ago
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From mendozart

Hey trout, Do you think you can post some pics of your snares, especially the bronze?

A member here kindly sent me a catalog pic which described this drum as a seamless bronze shell with the P-85 strainer and optional die cast hoops. It has a small "B" stamped into the shell. Whatever it is, I would never part with this snare. It is just always sounds great, no matter what the situation.

[IMG]http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g179/troutstudio/bronze_supra.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g179/troutstudio/pioneer-1.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g179/troutstudio/IMG_9061.jpg[/IMG]

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Posted on 16 years ago
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i don't know why but the supra sounds a little meatier to me. The acro seems to cut less. Just my opinion though. I also love the look of a supra!

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Posted on 16 years ago
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From Antipodes

As far as I'm aware (Ludwig experts leap in whenever you're ready or when I make a hash of it) the Ludalloy shells used for Acrolites and Supras are essentially the same - the difference being that the Acros have only eight (bowtie style) lugs and the Supras ten and, of course, the chromed shell. That's about the only difference I think. I had an oddball 80s chromed 6 1/2" deep eight lugger with bowtie lugs once but, after having seen a thread in here, it seems that was a bit of a rarity.

You are correct, they are the same type of shell design. I just picked up a 68 Supra on a BIN on Ebay for $200.00. It has some pitting bumps, but it's all original right down to the "longer" grommet for the badge.

BBK

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Posted on 16 years ago
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From troutstudio

I got a '67 acrolite recently and I love it. It's a unique drum sound, imo. I still desire to own a Supra. So my question is:How different is the sound of a Ludalloy Supra to an Acrolite? I already own a Pioneer and a beautiful 80's Bronze Supra (I don't know what else to call it, but it's the 6 1/2" bronze shell with the stamped "B").Should I wait for a brass shell Supra - the one with the crimped beds?In short - is the heavy brass Supra the bee's knees of Ludwig metal shells?

Unless I'm losing it...the "B" stamped on your drum means it's made of Brass. If I'm incorrect, someone straighten me out...K?

As far as the "Heavy" brass shells, I've been through the mill on this..and, thanks to this forum, have seen the light. There are lots of questions re: the "Heavier" weight of the brass shells. Fact is, some are heavier, and some are not. Almost the same weight as the Alloy. I own a few Supras, and one Brass Supra from the early 70's with the modified badge. It weighs almost the same as the Alloy...but it is, Indeed, brass

Go figure

Hope this helps

Keep it Funky

Stixofire

Posted on 16 years ago
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From Stixofire

Unless I'm losing it...the "B" stamped on your drum means it's made of Brass. If I'm incorrect, someone straighten me out...K? As far as the "Heavy" brass shells, I've been through the mill on this..and, thanks to this forum, have seen the light. There are lots of questions re: the "Heavier" weight of the brass shells. Fact is, some are heavier, and some are not. Almost the same weight as the Alloy. I own a few Supras, and one Brass Supra from the early 70's with the modified badge. It weighs almost the same as the Alloy...but it is, Indeed, brassGo figureHope this helpsKeep it FunkyStixofire

My Bronze Supra has the letters BZ stamped on it.

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"Failing to prepare, is preparing to fail". John Wooden

Blaemire / Jenkins-Martin drums.

http://www.jenkinsmartindrums.com/
Posted on 16 years ago
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From wflkurt

i don't know why but the supra sounds a little meatier to me. The acro seems to cut less. Just my opinion though. I also love the look of a supra!

Inclined to agree.

Chatting up 60's Acrophilia with the staff @ Interstate a

few weeks back we all agreed that the Supra's 'lil Bro kicks butt.

When the chips are on the table tho...Supra all the Way.

Aluminum, brass, bronze, hammered or otherwise.

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Posted on 16 years ago
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Ok I think I just learned something that I suspected was true for some time. I have an late 80's Black Beauty which is a lot heavier than my late 70's Supra.

The BB has a B stamped on the shell behind the muffler knob. So the B stands for brass? is that right?

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