That's not much bigger than usual, but with the bell every extra 1/4" that counts. Even though its a relatively small part of the cymbal, the bell's affect on the whole cymbal's sound far outweighs its size in comparison.

USN = United States Navy....dance band.

Football band !!

Have you ever weighed this thing?

I don't have an accurate scale at home, & have to run to the Post Office to get a good gram weight. (I'm surprised by the recent focus on weight. I believe the weight of a cymbal is worthless information, considering all the other factors that go into producing the sound of a cymbal. Congratulations to the genius who first brought this up as a selling/marketing point. It's now become the sine qua non of selling a cymbal, w/ demanding buyers , now thinking they're "informed" by the weight).

For the most part I agree with you on that. But to the extent that an extra heavy cymbal like that 30" now on eBay wouldn't be one that I would want to even consider, I do.

O.K., thank you.

I was once a part of the "thinner is always better" crowd until over time I discovered a few medium heavy old K's that have shimmer to them, "stick give back", are crash-able, flexible, and in short have all those desirable characteristics that many drummers associate only with thinner cymbals. And conversely I also found that some extremely thin cymbals can in fact be so thin that they start to lose desirable tonality. The wash is these types of cymbals tends to biome a form of white sound in such cases. I prefer cymbals that have a melodic sound to them.

So in conclusion I have to say that your point is well taken. So on this point, I have to say that many drummers put to much "weight" on it.

Get it?

.....weight?

...that was supposed to be a joke son.

I would agree, anything that says ping on it is not for me.

Based on the pics does that cymbal appear to be made later in the 70's?

Question for tdennis, how do you store/transport your 28"? i'm looking for something to move mine around and keep it nice and cozy. Any suggestions?

Gary

It looks like early 1970's, but it may not have gone out until the later 1970's because of that hollow ink logo. I'm sure that 30" cymbals didn't exactly fly out of the foundry. They probably sat there for quite a while.

Steve Maxwell make a custom cymbal bag for any and every size cymbal. It might be expensive though.

I have a 28" Zildjian, 6432 grams. It has 8 holes for rivits/sizzles. 3 dot 60s stamp. I bought it off of my local Craigslist a few years ago. It resonates forever.

I have a lot of respect for the players & enthusiasts who put together the fine points of the Cymbal Time Lines by looking at stamps, lathing, weight, profiles & bells. This makes sense. Now the time lines are pretty well established. However, drummers who think they are informed by looking at one parameter, & thinking that they can guess how a cymbal will sound, & fit in sonically w/ the rest of their set are kidding themselves. Terms like heavy ,medium , thin, & weight, are too general & crude to be of any significance. Buying a cymbal, no matter how much verbiage & measurement is put into the sale, is always a risk.

As far as transporting & caring for my 28". I always try to keep it horizontal. At home I keep it on a stand as part of my set, & transporting it, I keep it horizontal. I feel the weight is too great to ever store or transport vertically.