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What is this snare?

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The intrigue is continued - mystery, mystery snare, Jon... :)

George.

Posted on 12 years ago
#41
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It could be a Frankensnare. We've all seen them and I dare say we've all built one, even as a goof, assembled from parts of other snares to make something usable (and sometimes cool) for whatever reason at the time and ends up making the rounds of being handed down to another drummer (or pawned) and becoming the stuff of legends a generation later.

Clean it, polish it, play it, love it!

Posted on 12 years ago
#42
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Oh, I have made such one myself:

http://www.gratisimage.dk/image-576B_4DE2466D.jpg

But I think the possibility of this one being a Frankensnare is around nil.

If, it should have been done 25 + years ago, if you check the pics of the drum before I cleaned it, its parts has obviously aged together.

And, with NO extra holes in the shell and no chewing on the fasteners heads - highly unlikely.

And - still: where are the lugs coming from? And the rods? And the strainer? And the hoops? And the shell?

No, if there is one, there must be another - or at least one like it. Even if this site is guested by very knowledgeable people, there are still surprises to come. I know of a couple of Danish brands of drums, that I very much doubt any of even YOU guys have seen....L-WAR anybody?

Regards

Jon

Posted on 12 years ago
#43
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Didn`t Boosey and Hawkes have their version of an imperial lug and get bought around early seventies ? I`ve never seen one before and was wonder`n !!

It`s a drum,.....Hit It !!

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Posted on 12 years ago
#44
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That's a very different drum than anything Boosey & Hawkes made. ----in almost all ways. Doesn't really look to be British-----at all.

Posted on 12 years ago
#45
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Very interesting challenge.

My guess would have been something East-European. I checked for any similarities with Hungarian drums and there is none. I Don`t have any pictures of Russian or polish snare drums (Polmuz anyone?) but i`m pretty sure it`s from the communist block countries.

The wrap looks fammiliar to me but i don`t know where i have seen it.

Even if you don`t find out what it is, you can enjoy it as being a "misteryous snare". How does it sound?

Posted on 12 years ago
#46
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It sounds soft, low volume, warm.

Very thin shell and flat bearing edges makes for that.

No, it is NOT British.

Italy is the hot bid right now, but still no positive ID.

Noone seems to have a drum with the same lugs....

Jon

Posted on 12 years ago
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Hey Jon! Looks like a 60s MIJ. I think Star made those lugs for a small number of stencils. Ludwig did not suffer the copy-cat stencils very well. Star did indeed make a strainer like this, as seen here: http://www.tamadrum.co.jp/anniversary/expansion.php?cat_id=7&now=3

Hope this helps.

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Posted on 12 years ago
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From jonnistix

Hey Jon! Looks like a 60s MIJ. I think Star made those lugs for a small number of stencils. Ludwig did not suffer the copy-cat stencils very well. Star did indeed make a strainer like this, as seen here: http://www.tamadrum.co.jp/anniversary/expansion.php?cat_id=7&now=3Hope this helps.

If you mean the #925 strainer, of course they share the principle, but I think there are many, many differencies. I have put both into one picture here:

http://www.gratisimage.dk/image-7946_4F82DFF5.jpg

Sorry to shoot that down, but I donĀ“t think it is a Star. By the way, have you ever seen a woodshelled Star with 10 lugs?

Regards

Jon

Posted on 12 years ago
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There are many ,many throwoffs with the same basic design because it is simple and proven. The key in analysing a design , in order to assess a maker is in looking at the difficult parts in a construction. Those are the parts that are usually unique to a design and give clues to an origin. In the case of this strainer, most of it is sheet cut and then formed by braking or stamping and therefore of routine and obvious construction. Many such parts can look similar but when it comes to something like an adjustment knob, the form created by lathing is unique to each design and the thread on it's shaft is likely unique as well.

I bet it is a metric thread -----in fact , I bet every thread is metric = European construction( yes, I know the Japanese used some metric threads as well but there was usually a mixed bag of thread types because early Japanese drums were more the result of assembling the tooling of jobbers, rather than raw stock manufacturing).

There is also the issue related to the plating being nickel. As a question.---What is the newest drum anyone knows , that has nickel plating?

Posted on 12 years ago
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