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Vistalites really need help!

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Ok guys I just ordered a kit of novus 1,2 and 3 and Weld On acrylic! Wish me luck!

Praise Him upon the loud cymbals: praise him upon the high sounding cymbals! Let everything that hath breath praise the LORD. Praise ye the LORD. Ps 150:5
Posted on 12 years ago
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Do you have a way to keep the snare drum crack together while it sets? Something that will keep it round and not put too much pressure on it?

I'm thinking bungy cords or elastic straps of some kind, maybe?

Consult the experts here.......

My kit:
Ludwig Vistalite Big Beat set consisting of:
14” X 22” bass, 16” X 16” floor tom, 8” X 12” ride tom, 9” X 13” ride tom, 5” X 14” snare
Ludwig 201 Speed King bass drum pedal
Ludwig 1124 Spur-lok hit-hat with Ludwig Standard Paiste 14” cymbals (760 & 770 gr) with ching-ring
Two Ludwig Standard S-270 cymbals stands
18” Zildjian crash cymbal (1550 gr) and 20” Zildjian ride cymbal (2130 gr) with CAMCO sizzler
Gibraltar motorcycle seat-style drum throne with backrest
Posted on 12 years ago
#12
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From Tinman

Do you have a way to keep the snare drum crack together while it sets? Something that will keep it round and not put too much pressure on it?I'm thinking bungy cords or elastic straps of some kind, maybe?Consult the experts here.......

My dad has some of the strap clamps that adjust and Lock. We are going to use some of those. Hopefully we wont have any problems...

Praise Him upon the loud cymbals: praise him upon the high sounding cymbals! Let everything that hath breath praise the LORD. Praise ye the LORD. Ps 150:5
Posted on 12 years ago
#13
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Flossie - there are a bunch of threads (many recent) that will walk you step by step through the process. Don't take it personally, I just get tired of typing the same information over and over just so people feel they got their question answered. Use the Search feature. You'll turn up a bunch of threads with all kinds of pertinent information to help you do the job right.

Best of luck with your restoration...

John

Too many great drums to list here!

http://www.walbergandauge.com/VintageVenue.htm
Posted on 12 years ago
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From Purdie Shuffle

Flossie - there are a bunch of threads (many recent) that will walk you step by step through the process. Don't take it personally, I just get tired of typing the same information over and over just so people feel they got their question answered. Use the Search feature. You'll turn up a bunch of threads with all kinds of pertinent information to help you do the job right.Best of luck with your restoration...John

I have looked at some of the threads probably not enough. I think I know what I need now anyways. Thanks

Praise Him upon the loud cymbals: praise him upon the high sounding cymbals! Let everything that hath breath praise the LORD. Praise ye the LORD. Ps 150:5
Posted on 12 years ago
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Here's a copy/paste from one of the earlier threads I mentioned.

Repairing the vistas:

Use the Weld-on heavy, slow drying glue (#4) for seam repairs. Use the runnier, faster drying glue (Weld-on #3) for spider cracks around lugs or hairline cracks on the shell. I use a syringe to fill spider cracks. They're still visible after filling, but the glue will help to stabilize the shell.

For the seams; use an adjustable ratchet strap for seam repairs. The strap comes with 90 degree steel corners. Leave one of the steel corner pieces on the strap. Position the corner piece over the seam (it'll prevent you from gluing the strap to the shell!) and tighten/ratchet the strap until the seam is closed up nice and snug. Make sure the surfaces on both sides of the seam are flush before adding glue.

Inside the drum, (resting the drum on its side, seam down,) you'll notice that the seam forms a 'V' shaped channel. Use some blue painters tape to mask out the shell on either side of the seam. Use the slow-dry #4 and fill the channel with a bead of glue. Wait at least 24 hours before removing tension from the strap. It'll be a stronger seam after you repair it than it was when it left the factory. Ludwig didn't fill the channel with glue, ergo, seam breaks are common with vistas.

Refurbishing the shells is just pure elbow grease. I've done it many times. I don't envy you the job.

For the badges: straighten them very carefully by hand and then use a small 1" rubber roller to go around the grommet pressing the badge to the shell. No need to add glue to those badges. They already have an adhesive on the back.

All I had to do was type, 'vistalite' into the Search box and all the old posts came up. Hope this info helps. You'll see if you stick around here long enough, somebody asks how to repair vistalites at least twice a month. After you type the same answers for the sixth or seventh time it just starts to wear a bit thin. People never use the Search feature. Many of the answers people are looking for have already been addressed and by experts who left a wealth of information behind. So again, don't take it personally. You're not alone. A lot of folks just post questions without checking the archive first.

Best of luck with your repair.

John

Too many great drums to list here!

http://www.walbergandauge.com/VintageVenue.htm
Posted on 12 years ago
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From Flossie

Awesome! Thank you! Do you know where I can find the weld on adhesive?

Info: http://www.griptoad.com/CRACKREPAIR.htm

Source for products: http://www.tapplastics.com/shop/search.php?PHPSESSID=201202140604582102429974&search=weld-on&searchform.x=0&searchform.y=0

From Flossie

Also do you think the gel glo would be ok to polish and clean the shells? It says one step cleaner and polish FIBERGLASS-MARBLE-ACRYLIC

Don't know anything about that product. All the experts I've seen use Novus polish on acrylic drums. A little goes a long way.

http://www.tapplastics.com/shop/product.php?pid=113&PHPSESSID=201202140604582102429974

Posted on 12 years ago
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From Tinman

Do you have a way to keep the snare drum crack together while it sets? Something that will keep it round and not put too much pressure on it?I'm thinking bungy cords or elastic straps of some kind, maybe?Consult the experts here.......

I don't think bungees would put on enough pressure. I used strap clamps from my local DIY store - they're cheap, variable in length, and useful for other things afterward.

Strap it before you apply the adhesive. The adhesive is thin like superglue, and will melt the acrylic and dry pretty quickly. Then let it cure 24 hours or whatever the adhesive manufacturer says.

Posted on 12 years ago
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From tubelugs

I don't think bungees would put on enough pressure. I used strap clamps from my local DIY store - they're cheap, variable in length, and useful for other things afterward.Strap it before you apply the adhesive. The adhesive is thin like superglue, and will melt the acrylic and dry pretty quickly. Then let it cure 24 hours or whatever the adhesive manufacturer says.

Got the strap clamps already! That's what I was going to use! Thanks guys!

Praise Him upon the loud cymbals: praise him upon the high sounding cymbals! Let everything that hath breath praise the LORD. Praise ye the LORD. Ps 150:5
Posted on 12 years ago
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From Flossie

Thanks guys!

However it turns out, post pics and what you learned.

Posted on 12 years ago
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