Hi Jimmy,

In the UK you might want to try Lous Dias at Supreme drums (google em). He has a lot of vintage spares for very old kits.

Yes you can order pre int heads from remo still. I believe you can get both pinstripe and ambassador models.

Jump For Joy

Hi, Jim. That's a rare one! I can't offer you any help finding one of those, but you could also try posting this query in the "Non-USA" drum section, as well. There is a fellow named Mike Ellis (who is in England) and he may be able to steer you in the right direction. Good luck!

Also...you might try contacting Gary Noonan of Noonan Custom Drums in London. He is a very well-known and highly-regarded custom drum builder and he may have some connections for stuff like the rim you are looking for.

Another thing you might consider doing in the meantime is using a single-flange rim with clips. A single-flange rim with clips will probably be pretty easy to find....at least easier than finding the appropriate 7-hole rim you are looking for. At least that way, you could use the drum as a 7-lug drum without going to any drastic measures!

EDIT: Whoops! I started talking about snare drum rims....I re-read the post and edited out the snare drum references.

You can also look up a company in England called DM Drums that has alot of Premier parts. I spoke to a guy there when I needed help getting info on my mid 60's Premiers. He was super nice and very helpful. I dont recall his name, but I think he posts on this board.

Edit: Heres the link... http://www.dmdrums.co.uk/

Thanx Tommy! I'll logon to that site and give 'er a try.

Jimmy from twangtown band3

Hi O-lugs, and thanks! I'll give Gary Noonan a shout. Great idee about trying a rim with claws, if I could find a rim that's 'pre-international' size that is, hhehehehehehe Jimmy from Twangtown Stage Band2

I just sent Lous an email. Thanks very much for helping and keep on drummin'!!! Jimmy

The Mike Dolbear vintage forum (Dolbear mentioned previously) is awash with all manner of Premier and Olympic expertise (and I would suspect, spares as well).

David

Thanks David!

but I've registered with the U.K. site Mike Dolbear and posted a wanted message about a month ago and have had no replies. Maybe the limeys don't wanna help out a Yank (actually I'm a rebel, hehehehehe)

I'll try looking there agin.

Jim,

I'm curious as to what the actual measurement of "pre-international" is in comparison to "international". If it's just a fraction larger, then I don't think a single-flange rim would be a problem. In my experience, most drums that came with single-flange rims were for drums with calfskin heads -which often had fatter flesh hoops. For example, I have an old Sherwood snare drum from the 1950's and a standard calfskin head wouldn't go onto the shell....I had some custom calfskin heads made by Rob Cook and that solved the head fitting the shell problem. But my point is that the single flange rims must have been slighter larger diameter, anyway. So, a regular, old single-flange might just work in a pinch....?

That aside, maybe someone like Gary Noon could make you a single-flange rim that would be the right size. He's a master of metal working! Or maybe someone more local might be able to do the job.

Maybe even a wood rim/claws might work. i don't think it would be aesthetically the prettiest look for such a drum, but it might get it up and running...and I think you could probably get a custom wood hoop made a bit easier than you would a steel one...but that's just my guess. Anyway...food for thought. :)