Looks like Premier lugs.

Hi JRichard!

Thanks for your reply!

Indeed, as far as I learned on this forum, Amatis were Czechoslovakian made drums that copied the Premier lugs.

If I remember right, forum member Gilnar once posted pictures of his Amati set that has this kind of lugs on all drums.

Beautiful snare!Congrats!Amati was Czechoslovakian company,they made drums and cymbals.Your snare is probably from European beech.Amati never made drums from cardboard,Tacton (former East Germany) did.Snare side on your snare is changed,and what you have is something from old Sonor or Tromsa drums.You missing but side also.look at these pics

http://www.drummuseum.hu/gyujtemeny_a.php?a=c&f=2&mid=24&cid=72

Lugs are kind of copy of British lugs.Premier and John gray,and snare and but side of strainer are kind of Sonor 60-es copy

Also hoops are changed.Amati put the snare strainer in the middle of two lugs,but batter side lugs ,since they are splited,so on their bottom hoops were two holes off center ,closer to one of the holes of the hoop.Hoops were curved inside,opposite to today standard triple flanged,curved outside

Hi Dule!

Thank you so much!

Yes, the rims seemed to be kinda suspect to me, also. Just forgot to mention this in my former post. Might be hard to find the right parts to bring her back to original condition...

Very nice link to the Hungarian drum museum! Hm, the wrap has a rare color - which means that it might be almost impossible to find the rest to have a complete set...:(

Or have you ever seen appearing a kit like the one pictured one website of the museum in your local market? If yes, what is the pricing like for these old Amatis? Would be nice to have complete kit matching the snare!

(To be honest, my intension in buying this snare was to have it to go with my orange Yammies, which are missing an era-correct snare. And finding a Yamaha snare with the same wrap as the rest of the kit - I gave up dreaming of it. If anybody out there has one for sale: just let me know!:))

Once again, thank you very much for your information!

Cheers, Jurgen

Those Amati sets are from 60-es and 70-es.in the beginning they were 3 ply with re rings,latter without re rings,thicker shell.only enigma to me is snare drum.i never have chance to see it with re-ring,I don't know if Amati made them,or they were always thicker,without them.Sets were 20-12-16 and 14 snare,and that was only configuration they made,so around there are other shells in that finish.About those 14' original hoops,I don't know experiences of father-42 and Gilnar,but I always had a problem with tightening heads,specially if they were little warn up.inward(inside0 piece of hoop will come down to the shell and can go further.So I think modern hoops are better solution.About original hardware,there some pics of snare and but side and original snare wires

and here is a link(thank you Gilnar!)with huge number of pics of Amati sets.Round here in Serbia,i am searching for completed set in some nice finish.The pop out time to time,but always is something missing,snare or floor,but it will come eventualy,and price could not be more then 100 euros for all 4 shells

http://medak7.rajce.idnes.cz/Documents/

Hi Jurgen,

Really nice find.

Dule nailed most of your questions. Some add:

- Amati indeed never took a monkey-face from cardboard's Premier APK - romanian Doina and cheap entry lines of german Tacton only.

- I hadn't seen the snares with 3-ply shells too but these kind were produced for a some time.

- original Amati S-hoops were fine, a bit worse compared to german Trowa.

- Hungarian museum is very cool but some mistakes take a place in descriptions and dates.

- A lot of original parts often poped on russian or ukranian drummer-sites with a funny cost... :) but 99% of it members are not registred on ebay.

George.

That's sweet... I've always been a sucker for orange sparkle. I've had a few kits in that wrap by various makers, and got talked out of all of them! :)

Sold every one.

Oh well... another will come along! That looks like quality. How does it sound?

Hello!

It's a very nice looking drum and the set Dule posted link to just made my eyeballs pop out! I've never seen so beautifully preserved Amatis! I never thought much about orange sparkle but your drum and Dule's post might make me change my mind.

Now... I think you're better off with inoriginal hoops and strainer system, because the old Amati strainers were incredibly simple, almost primitive, and, at least to me, absolute and horrible pain in the arse to set up. I have to warn you, though, that you might still have some problems with the drum - edges were not really perfect and snare beds were shoddy. At least the second problem can be solved easily with a piece of sandpaper, though.

To the number of plies: Amati indeed DID make 3ply snares, but they're VERY scarce, as they are one of their oldest models. I have seen 3ply 5" and 3.5" snares, but I think they belonged to their older sets with different logo setups, often mufflers on both sides, and, on the really old ones, even with nickel-plated hardware. I had the opportunity to buy such a set once and I'm still kicking myself for not doing so.

Throwoff is a Tromsa model used on their mid-line drums from about the late 70's on.

Regarding the problem with hoops bottoming out.I have run into this with a number of drums and it can be solved by choosing heads with less dropdown.

Some companies make various heights.