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Should I Reinforce the Soft Spot Around the Bass Drum Spur Hole?

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From billnvick

John, thanks for the info. It will be awhile before I get through my can of Rock Hard.Are you the one that (in another thread) warned about NOT using polyuerethane (sp?)? I've got a 60s MIJ set that I hadn't gotten to yet, and it has a clear Luan interior... and hadn't thought of that...

That was Jonnistix. He said that using polyeurethane will not allow the shells to breath and give them a plasticcy sound.

"If it doesn't matter who wins or loses then why the hell do they keep score Peg? - Al Bundy
Posted on 12 years ago
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jonnistix is a great source of expertise. In this case however, I was referring to Perdie Shuffle. I trust him in any restoring project I have ever attempted. Not only is he very bright, he has a lot of experience under his belt. If there are details you need to know, send him a P.M. This gentleman is more than obliging. I am a great fan.

Brian

Just a drummer who loves all things about vintage drums! Nothing more, nothing less.
Posted on 12 years ago
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After doing the putty/hardening, I'd still use a large washer, bigger then the original damaged area, just to be sure.

Posted on 12 years ago
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Yep. Smart idea, JR! Why take a chance? Very good point, sir.

Brian

Just a drummer who loves all things about vintage drums! Nothing more, nothing less.
Posted on 12 years ago
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Thanks for all the input, fellas. The Ronseal harnener is a British product and I had difficulty locating it, but I did find at my local shops the Minwax and a PT brand version. All these solvent based product look similar, use a solvent for penetration & have the same precautionary statements. Is there really a difference from one to another?

As for the suggestion for varnishing the inside, I already lightly sanded the interior w/ 220 & applied 3 coats of polyurethane free laquer.

It was really fun & exciting taking apart the drums! I love this project...but can't wait to 'bang the drum'!!!!

Brian

'65/'66 Slingerland Stage Band in Red Sparkle Pearl
'67 Rogers Buddy Rich Headliner in Blue Sparkle Pearl
'49 WFL 6.5x14 Contest Snare
'55 Slingerland 7x14 Hollywood Ace Snare
'70's Premier PD2000 5x14 Snare
50's & 70's Zildjian/Paiste Cymbals
Posted on 12 years ago
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It's all basically the same stuff, Brian. Same principle; to harden/reinforce. Go for it! I got the British stuff from my son. I called him and asked where he got it and he told me it was left-over from a job he did for a contactor and he has no idea where the contractor got it from! If you've found similar/equivalent products... and you can't be with the one you love...

"Love the one you're with!"

Photos when they're all done please.

John

Too many great drums to list here!

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Posted on 12 years ago
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From MIKEY777

...as for your questions on the washers on these drums they used a few ways to mount these mounts.One way was you would have a chrome round washer on the outside of the shellwith a small dent in the middle to lay flat next to the shell,Then a round inside washer not chrome with a lock washer and nut. But they also used a flat piece of metal in the inside of the shell-{back plate} this would also have a bent spot to lay next to the shell...Mikey

Thanks for the guidance, , Mikey. One of the spur mounts was attached as you described, but the other had an extra washer on the outside, under the dented chrome washer, causing it to not lay flat. I think this may have caused the damage.

Keep on Pl Brian

'65/'66 Slingerland Stage Band in Red Sparkle Pearl
'67 Rogers Buddy Rich Headliner in Blue Sparkle Pearl
'49 WFL 6.5x14 Contest Snare
'55 Slingerland 7x14 Hollywood Ace Snare
'70's Premier PD2000 5x14 Snare
50's & 70's Zildjian/Paiste Cymbals
Posted on 12 years ago
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From Purdie Shuffle

It's all basically the same stuff, Brian. Same principle; to harden/reinforce. Go for it! I got the British stuff from my son. I called him and asked where he got it and he told me it was left-over from a job he did for a contactor and he has no idea where the contractor got it from! If you've found similar/equivalent products... and you can't be with the one you love..."Love the one you're with!"Photos when they're all done please.John

Good. As I suspected. Thanks to everyone for the discussion. It seems there's a fair amount of agreement on this topic, and I feel confident this will be a successful repair!

I'll post photos along the way for myself...and anyone else who might be interested.

Tonight...hole repair & lug polishing!Kleening

'65/'66 Slingerland Stage Band in Red Sparkle Pearl
'67 Rogers Buddy Rich Headliner in Blue Sparkle Pearl
'49 WFL 6.5x14 Contest Snare
'55 Slingerland 7x14 Hollywood Ace Snare
'70's Premier PD2000 5x14 Snare
50's & 70's Zildjian/Paiste Cymbals
Posted on 12 years ago
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If you have a bench grinder, one of those cloth J.ewelers wheels and a stick of polishing compound is the cat's meow on lugs. Finish them up with a microfiber cloth and any chrome left on them is shining like a mirror!

Bonus- Put the screws back in the lugs and you can grab them there and get in close on the whole lug.

toodles

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"If it doesn't matter who wins or loses then why the hell do they keep score Peg? - Al Bundy
Posted on 12 years ago
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From JRichard

After doing the putty/hardening, I'd still use a large washer, bigger then the original damaged area, just to be sure.

Yes!!

Larger - and thicker. And bend it to follow the shell.

Regards

Jon

Posted on 12 years ago
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